Bavaria - ID Help

Originally posted this in Bavaria -- Questions and ID topic but have not had a response so posting again as a new topic.

Thanks to PostmasterGS for the Michel catalogue type descriptions. Here are three 5pf stamps I have in my collection. The first one seems to be Type I (not in good condition), the second is what I consider the 'normal' stamp listed in Scott's catalogue and I think it is Type II. The one that has me puzzled is the third one which is either Type II or III but printed on dark bluish green paper. Can anyone help with the paper variety?

It's not a paper variety, it's what it should be. Gibbons #139, Michel #77 & Scott #78 all agree, printed on green paper. None of these catalogues, particularly my Michel Specialised, mention a white/cream paper.

However, a quick perusal of Delcampe shows most copies on green paper, but a few are on white/cream & it doesn't look like problems with scanning, & if the paper colour was water-soluble you'd think there would be at least some streaks on used copies.

Here's some examples from Delcampe showing paper variations


Here's an example from Delcampe with the catalogued green paper

Michel notes that the paper colors of MiNr 77 and 87 are not light-fast, and are subject to significant variations.

Alternatively, Michel also notes that during the printing process, cracked or damaged paper sheets were pasted over with white or colored paper before printing. Michel notes this in the context of explaining why numerous copies have seemingly unprinted areas -- the pasting process left gum stains which, when contacted by water, dissolve and result in unprinted areas. This isn't my area of expertise, so I'm not sure if the pasted-over paper could also account for the color variation you're seeing.

silly question for you, YeaPolska. The original poster shows 3 varieties of 5 pfennig, and you responded with the catalog numbers from the "big 3" catalogs, along with images. however, your first image, which you questioned the white paper, is a 60 pfennig, not a 5 pfennig like the OP was discussing. is it possible that the 60 pf was issued on white paper, while the 5 pf wasn't?

Um, yes, oh dear, not a silly question at all. I think a serious senior moment occurred, I've posted some correct images. How about we pretend the whole thing didn't happen & I'll just crawl into my study & sort out my pre-war postal stationery...