Help Identifying Zeppelin Cachet Creator

I don't have cover in hand yet. I cannot read the Cachet makers name in the picture. Looks like Ken Daelke. An internet search does not bear any fruit.
Has anyone here seen similar cachets or know of any makers in Buffalo, NY circa 1928?

I think you're mixing things up a little bit. The reference on the reverse side of your cover is Ben(jamin A.) Dahlke, Buffalo, NY. Mr. Dahlke was the inventor of the red and blue "lozenge" air mail envelopes and thus his name appears on the earliest designs.

(It has nothing to do with the cachetmaker).

http://www.google.com/patents/US1714349

wt1, brilliant! Thank you.

Darn it, that was at least a clue to the cachet, so I thought...

I believe I found it. It is Herbert Griffin.

Great. If I may ask, how did you find it? Zepp covers are not something I've focused on, so I don't know what resources are available. (Ask me about patriotic covers, though, and I will happily look and see what I can find in Lawrence Sherman's "United States Patriotic Covers of World War II," a such massively detailed compilation that it is breath taking.) But I am curious about philatelic resources, even in areas I don't collect. You know, just in case I get bored with current interests, and start looking around for a new one. While I don't foresee that, if I were to branch into a new area of collecting, Zepp covers (especially franked with US airmails) would be a natural.

blcjr, the cover is addressed to him C/O someone else. I did a google search of his name and cachet maker links came up.

wt1:

Not wishing to hijack this thread, but I am interested in Mr. Dahlke and his patent beyond the information that your link shows. The design has been used by many printers world wide. Have you or anyone else seen an article on his design and how he authorized the design's very wide distribution?

Thanks.

Don

Don,

Hopefully wt1 can answer your question, but while you wait, did you see where in another thread I "verified" that your guess or suspicion about John Coulthard was in fact the creator of the "designer unknown" cachet for C25a? I came across a couple of items in First Days attributing it to him, for Cachet Craft.

Basil

So as not to hijack this thread, I am going to post a new thread specifically on the subject of Benjamin A. Dahlke (1883-1958) and his air mail envelope (tomorrow, I hope).

I uncovered some fascinating reading on his life and his air mail envelope patent and how he had to refuse a $1 million offer for it in deference to surrendering it to the US Government because of anti-monopoly laws.

(It also seems as though he was also quite an accomplished business man and something of a well-known character in the Buffalo, NY area, and even ran for Mayor at one point.)

Basil:

Yes, I did, and I thank you for it. John Coulthard is one of my favorite cachet makers. His woodcut cachets are not very attractive and I think turn many collectors off. They are stiff and amateur looking. However, Coulthard excels with his cartoon characters that the dealer Elmer Long used frequently in his ads. Coulthard's Cachet Craft drawings are kind of middle ground for him. He also did several for the August brothers at Washington Press that are attractive, in my opinion.

Don

Many thanks, wt1. I am looking forward to reading it.

I suspect that many people assume that the airmail border design was created by the U.S. government, I did. I will be interesting to see how Dahlke was able to control distribution and make some money from it. As an aside, I collect covers with variations of the airmail border and have a few hundred different with new ones still turning up.

I think I have hijacked the thread and I apologize. This will be my last post about the airmail border here.

Don

DonSellos, this is all good. Learnin' and lovin' it!