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Austria Pr5A - Postmark And Overprint?

 
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Posted 05/07/2015   12:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add walkabout to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have a couple of these with heavy black printing - this one has just a medium x and v with underline. Is it part of a dumb cancel/postmark? Would anyone happen to recognize the post mark on this one?

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Posted 05/07/2015   01:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is newsprint from the Title of the Newspaper. The stamp paid a special rate for Newspapers and were sent intact with the address either handwritten or an address label attached.

As the other cancel is in Italian ) Officia Delle Posta (Official Post Office) it was presumably used in Lombardy Venetia but I do cannot decipher the name of the office,

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Posted 05/07/2015   01:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
pagoda - Thank you. I had checked Scotts (an older version) and I didn't find anything in the overprints that might have matched it. I hadn't thought about a bleed from the paper. And thank you for the id on the postmark. Some fuzzy things I don't read as well as I use to and the lack of contrast didn't help.
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Doesn't look like it is bleed from the newspaper. Maybe the stamp was affixed to the paper first, and then part of the newsprint paper title got printed over the stamp? I know this happened with Turkish newspaper stamps. There was an old SCF thread on that.
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Posted 05/07/2015   02:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The newsprint was printed over the stamp as a method of cancelling the stamp.

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Posted 05/07/2015   02:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
khj - Thank you for the input. That is more what I was thinking but I expressed it incorrectly. Get too many thoughts going at once and then nothing gets related correctly. Actually, it just dawned on me what I find curious and disturbing about the stamp. The post mark and color are the same - that bothers me. Oh well, back to the books.
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Posted 05/07/2015   04:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
walkabout - The text of the cancel in Italian reads UFFICIO DELLE IMPOSTE = tax office.

See: Newspaper-Tax stamps on http://stampforgeries.com/album-weeds-austria/
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Edited by florian - 05/07/2015 06:06 am
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florian - Thank you for the link/reference. It is useful for the foreign journals. This is one that I found most helpful for the newspapers: http://www.austrianphilately.com/np...es/f1s02.htm
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Posted 05/07/2015   10:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
walkabout - Thanks for the link.

See also http://www.antichistati.com/1024/lv/lv.htm for Lombardo Veneto - Antichi Stati Italiani and open Introduzione (=introduction) to Segnatasse per giornali (= newspaper tax stamps) at the very bottom of the left-hand column using Google translator.

It explains these stamps were used to levy a tax on recipients of newspapers and magazines, especially those politically motivated, coming from abroad and later also from the interior, to discourage the spread of ideas which were not appreciated.

See also tariffe e affrancature su giornali d'epoca - Il postalista on http://www.ilpostalista.it/sommario_14.htm
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Edited by florian - 05/07/2015 10:35 am
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Posted 05/07/2015   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent link, florian!

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Posted 05/07/2015   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
florian - Thank you for the additional links. Looking through the Austrian section of the collection I'm working with, there seems to be a number of stamps for newspapers, journals and periodicals - the links will come in useful, I'm sure.
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