Penny Red Pair On Newspaper - Worth Anything?

The stamps have been on that newspaper for 167 years...

First... they're worth more to a collector ON the paper,
not off... and, anyone expressing concern about acidity
or anything else from the news paper affecting the stamps
after 167 years has got to be 'kidding'... if the stamps
haven't been damaged by it by now, they never will... so
don't even consider removing them...

And the comment about cutting away the bottom stamp is
absolutely ludicrous...

To say that the stamps are not damaged is very misleading as both show signs of it. Only the top stamp is in a semi-decent condition and might be worth trying to save... it's on a newspaper fragment with a part postmark in the margin and both do nothing for the stamps except detract. But it is not worth arguing about a pair of damaged stamps that would be worth around 8-12 pounds in good condition. Undamaged singles are available for 2-4 pounds in good condition.

Anyway the stamps are SG8 imperforate, Die 1, Alphabet 1,with a plate range most likely from 59 to 77 as far as I can tell. Postmarked in Liverpool. Anything earlier than plate 36 would most likely have a maltese cross cancel and anything later than plate 77 would most likely need a time machine to get them as they had not been printed by the postmarked date.

edited to include the words "most likely" as it is only my opinion.

I don't think anyone can argue that the stamps are not damaged. As mentioned they've been on the paper for 167 years. None of these things live in a vacuum, and stuff is bound to happen. I hope I look that good in another 112 years (though I have doubts).
Beauty is in the eyes of the preverbal holder I think. Obviously we each look at this piece and see something different. Personally I think it's a lovely artifact, and I wouldn't touch a hair on either of Her Majesty's heads.

Hi Scotzm

I was basing my thoughts on Stanley Gibbons Great Britain, Volume one Queen Victoria. An the only two penny reds that could be consecutive would be the ones I mentioned, but I am no authority in this area, but also based on the date stamp which is 1449, my assumption makes it more probable.
Regards
Horamkhet.

Plate 32 was used from 7th February to 16th September 1843 so it might seem unlikely that the stamps were kept for 5 years before use in 1848?
SG mention that cancels on plates up to 36 are inevitably Maltese Cross type with very rare other type.
Alphabet 1 letters are distinctive and the letter "O" is normally round until plate 59 when it becomes oval... I believe the stamp OE has an oval O. As already mentioned,plates after 77 cannot exist at the postmarked date.