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Posted 06/04/2015   10:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add 51studebaker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I would be interested in everyone's opinion on these listings. They all have sold for some pretty substantial money, perhaps I am missing something. They certainly do not appear to be the stamp catalog number called out in the listings. Are they real stamp proofs or are they some kind of reproductions?
Don

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/z3-usa-scot...em3aab2318b0

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Posted 06/04/2015   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hieronymus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Would be interesting to know who feller "a****e0"--who bid all three lots way up--really is.
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Posted 06/04/2015   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I love the description from the seller:

STAMPS

You know you're working with a professional when they can describe the items so perfectly in the least amount of words ...
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Posted 06/04/2015   12:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! All fresh color and perfectly centered, neatly trimmed and mint. Almost too good to be true.
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Posted 06/04/2015   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Franklin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Whatever they are, they sure are beautiful examples. The seller has been around less than a year and has very bad feedback esp considering the number of sales. If I had money to burn, and I mean literally, I might take a chance on them.
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Posted 06/04/2015   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It has been suggested that they could be modern reproductions. Anyone concur? Why would anyone drop three figures on material like this without better images/certs? Is the misidentification not a warning sign? What am I missing? Are listing like this really worth the gamble?
Don
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Posted 06/04/2015   1:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hieronymus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Leave negative feedback on this guy and he'll accuse you of extortion and threaten to denounce you to the police--see his response to the last negative feedback under the preceding six months.
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Posted 06/04/2015   1:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southpaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
no way to tell what's up. Low res scans. I wouldn't buy from him...
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Posted 06/04/2015   3:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the same seller.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/china-The-W...261910184794

Yea... This is a far cry from the 0.01 sales found in his sales history. Something just ain't right.

Also got to love the response he left from a question. Not just stamps, but Original Stamps.

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Edited by Battlestamps - 06/04/2015 3:03 pm
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Posted 06/04/2015   3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Franklin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe some treasure hunters will pay to look at them and return them if not as described. I wouldn't want to try to return something to Italy and hope it gets through customs. I got married there, so I've seen the beurocracy in action.

Could also be clueless collectors with deep pockets.

As far as the China stamps, it just makes me think of all the "original stamps" I could buy with 71k!
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Posted 06/04/2015   4:22 pm  Show Profile Check Rileysan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Rileysan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They all look like Die & Plate proofs - some of which are quite expensive. Perhaps that's what the buyers are gambling on? However, without better pix, there's no telling what they actually are ...

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Posted 06/04/2015   6:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! It is hard to believe someone would bid over $71,000 on an item from a seller with a lowly 98.8 satisfactory rating. 171 bids from .01 to over $$71K. Must be Chinese bidders.

With all the unquestioning bidders, it almost strike be as some sort of money laundering scheme going on.

Bidder a***e has made 15 Chinese stamp purchases from 1 seller in the last 30 days.

I wish I had the expertise and $$ to confidently bid $$$K on items with such little certification.
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Posted 06/04/2015   6:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There must be 1000's of forgeries of that Chinese stamp, I have been told they can be bought at street markets in China,

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Posted 06/04/2015   9:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Brian; It is extremely unlikely any of them are die proofs because of their size (though remotely possible). I think the "grainy" look of the pictures gives our clue to the strong possibility that they are photo facimiles.

Looking also at the United States items he currently has listed, my guess is no more than 3 of them are what he says, maybe only two, maybe only one.
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Posted 06/05/2015   12:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Great Britain QV 2s.6 & 5s. stated to be on Blued paper are on the much more commoner White paper,

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