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Tagged Vs. Untagged- Do I Need To Pay Attention To This?

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Posted 07/18/2015   6:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Short1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I just began using Stamp Manage and as I entered in my stamps I quickly discovered that there are many varieties that a) my album doesn't list (already figured that) and b) many other sources do not list. (A lot of these variations and Scott numbers I don't seem to see online... wasn't aware of these varieties till now)

When you collect, do you generally differentiate between tagged and untagged stamps for your collection? Or should I just not bother? It is horrible how some stamps have such varieties to the point of not even knowing if I've got the right ones put in to the album.. for all I know I have to go through them each again and be sure they're correct.

Is stamp manage extra extra picky? Do I just be happy with having correct perfs etc. and not worry about the tagged varieties?

What are your thoughts?
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Posted 07/18/2015   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I pay no attention
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Posted 07/18/2015   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do pay attention. This is a very personal thing; it just depends on how deep you want to go. If you are going to collect general US, you have about 5000+ Scott numbers to worry about.
I specialize and collect only a small portion of the catalog, so I do not mind going "all the way" with varieties, even those that are no listed in the Scott catalog.

Peter
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Posted 07/18/2015   7:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As has been said many times by multiple individuals, it's up to you as to what you want to collect. Only you can decide what is best for you. You get to choose how detailed you want your collection to be.
For many years, I ignored tagging as well as all other minor catalog numbers. Then, in late 2010, I decided to branch into minor US varieties (this was cheaper than going back to fill in some of the classics). Along the way I stumbled across a PNC with a plate number that could be worth $75 if the tagging was right. Eventually my curiosity won out & I bought a UV lamp. As a result, I was able to identify many inexpensive varieties that heretofore had remained unknown to me. But collecting tagging varieties does have its pitfalls.
It sounds as though you've already identified one of the problems in attempting to acquire tagging varieties. Many (probably most) sellers don't bother with minor varieties of any ilk and tagging seems to be the most ignored. This can make it difficult to locate a specific stamp. Another problem is that some sellers seem to have difficulty identifying tagging types. I have returned numerous purchases sold as untagged that were in fact tagged.
Finally, all those newly discovered varieties usually aren't found on the normal album page. As a result, you need to figure out how you want to display your extra stamps. I decided to peruse the Scott catalog, select those minor varieties that I wanted to collect & could afford, and then started making my own album pages for said varieties.
To finish, let me say I have never regretted my decision, although the journey has been occasionally frustrating. And my PNC, of course, was worth only $1.
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Posted 07/18/2015   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jbcev80 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Short1

I agree with JLLebbert. It is up to you to decide what depth you want to go in collecting.

Colombia stamps have tagging but I ignore the fact that they are tagged or not.

Jerry B
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Posted 07/18/2015   9:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Back in the day, Alfred "Tag" Boerger was a pioneer dealer in these varieties. He argued that tagging applied to a printed stamp was another ink, even if it was only visible, well, out of visible range; and he argued that fluorescent dyes in paper made them another paper variety; and I found his arguments completely convincing; and I have never paid attention to these varieties.

Your move.
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Posted 07/18/2015   9:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I pay no attention. For my collection it's not important.
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Posted 07/19/2015   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NBSTAMPER to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think tagging creates new varieties that are distinct from their untagged cousins, so I collect them. It may, however, be easier in some countries than others. The bars are very visible in most Canadian and British tagged stamps.
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Posted 07/19/2015   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tlmcca to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree with the general sentiment that it doesn't matter for a general collection. However, if you are putting together a specialized collection of a specific issue I think it would matter for completeness.

Terry
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Posted 07/19/2015   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pk-short to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't worry about tagging unless you have a specialized collection. Even with a specialized collection, you cannot tell varieties under normal light. Here is a page from my Australian collection with tagging varieties - you can only see the difference between the stamps under ultraviolet light.


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Posted 07/19/2015   10:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Short1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not gonna lie- I find it really annoying that there are all these hidden varieties. Sure, I could collect every "face" of stamp that have been issued. But it's weird to me that the stamp in my book might not even be the correct stamp based on Scott number. It feels like cheating. And figuring out what the correct version is is ridiculous and boring to me. I wasn't put on earth to sit and categorize stamps. Sigh...
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Posted 07/19/2015   11:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tlmcca to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I find it really annoying that there are all these hidden varieties.



Short1: My attitude is that I'll mount #362xivii as #362 and not lose any sleep over it.

Terry
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Posted 07/19/2015   11:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since paper and tagging varieties come from different printings they often have shade differences. Some distinct shades are evident in the Australian Definitives above.
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Posted 07/21/2015   1:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add knuppster59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have Steiner's Canada pages and unfortunately it cares about tagging, so then I care about the tagging to fill the album spaces.
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Posted 07/21/2015   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"I have to agree with the general sentiment that it doesn't matter for a general collection. However, if you are putting together a specialized collection of a specific issue I think it would matter for completeness.

Terry"

So why bother to collect different colours, perforations, types of paper, sizes, etc......

If you do not wish to specialize, be happy!

But if you do wish to specialize do NOT think a difference in perforation or type of paper is a VARIETY!

If you drive a Ferrari and your neighbour is racing a Maserati... His vehicle is just a VARIETY ;) Not worth having [to collect..]
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Posted 07/21/2015   4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
pk-short,

Why not explain what is the difference between plain paper, infused ink and Helecon???? And add that description to your sheet!

You are not collecting different versions of a stamp simply because crazy catalogues list them under separate (sub)numbers! If you do not understand what it is about [or you do not want to!] then just forget about it!

groetjes, Rein
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