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Is This A Zeppelin Flight Cover?

 
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Posted 07/18/2015   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add duncanvr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Sold to me as a Zep flight cover but does the cachet indicate this is a Zeppelin cover? Or is this a standard airmail cover? I can not see any airship mentioned on the cover. The back only has the same Fritz Muller cachet as seen on the front. Any info on this cover welcomed. Thanks all for the help.



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Posted 07/18/2015   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a regular airmail cover to me. A Zeppelin cover would have a mention of it. Sorry!

Peter
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Posted 07/18/2015   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's what I think as well not a Zep cover at all just a Reich airmail cover :(
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Posted 07/18/2015   10:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There seems to be numbers of such covers around classed as Zeppelin covers which do not mention any airship. I can assume all are standard airmail covers
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Posted 07/19/2015   12:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eligies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just had a quick thought: The center cancel shows a Zeppelin along with another airplane type and perhaps went with a more topical description because of the cancel rather than a piece that actually traveled by zep mode??
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Posted 07/19/2015   5:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yeh you maybe right on the cachet but that's still not a reason for them to claim its a Zep cover. From now on I only bid on ones that say either Condor Zep, Graf or Hundenburg.
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Posted 07/19/2015   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Glenn Estus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Have any of the "experts" above consulted the Sieger Catalog which list dates of flights? There are a number of such covers on ebay with the same red flight cachet. Hard to tell the date of the cover from scan, but it looks like September 1934. There was a flight to South America at that time.
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Posted 07/19/2015   9:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I make it September 20, 1934.
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Posted 07/19/2015   9:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes that is the correct date seen best on the green stamp
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Posted 07/20/2015   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Neeskens13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On September 20, 1934, the Graf Zeppelin took off from Rio and landed in Recife on September 21. It was in the middle of the 8th South American Flight that lasted from September 15 to September 25.

The red cachet with the two stars before and after "Deutsche Luftpost" [German Airmail] was utilized in Stuttgart. A quick check of Wikipedia shows that Esslingen is 9 miles from the center of Stuttgart.

Sorry to say, Duncan -- it's only a regular air mail cover.
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Posted 07/20/2015   5:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for clarifying I now only buy ones that say Graf or Hindenburg on them, was looking at Zep cover auctions yesterday and found more regualr airmail flights marked as Zeppelin covers. I think buyers and sellers need to be more careful buying things listed as Zep covers when they are not always Zep but regular airmail ones. If it doesn't say Zeppelin don't bid on it.
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