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Another Really Bad Forgery

 
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Posted 09/03/2015   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ekbustad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deutsches-R...281788667395

Anyone who knows anything about these overprints would see instantly that this is a fake, but there may be newbies who would not.

The seller's other items are all also overprinted stamps, but I don't know enough about those issues to tell if they are, as I suspect, also all fakes.
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Posted 09/03/2015   12:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ebustad, I must be one of those newbies? Why is this a fake in your opinion?

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Posted 09/03/2015   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ekbustad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The font used for the overprint and the spacing of the lines of text is all wrong. Here is an example of this stamp from my collection. Compare it to the image in the ebay listing.

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Posted 09/03/2015   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
re.

the seller's other items are all also overprinted stamps, but I don't know enough about those issues to tell if they are, as I suspect, also all fakes.

yes, all fake overprints, have you reported any of them to ebay,

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Posted 09/03/2015   3:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All his other items looks like poor forgeries as well.


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Posted 09/03/2015   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ekbustad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I reported the fake Togo occupation overprint, but not the others as I do not have the knowledge to definitively identify them as fakes.
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Posted 09/03/2015   3:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, ekbustad, I can see the difference clearly now!

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Posted 09/03/2015   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This item http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281785117059, overprinted Schonbach Sudetenland is so obviously fake - not only is the cancel location wrong (Pilsen), the year date is wrong (1922). Sudetenland was not created until 1938!

This is obviously a genuine Czechoslovakia used stamp with a fake overprint -- yet it sold for $21.50.
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Posted 09/03/2015   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I asked the seller of the stamp in the original post if the overprint was genuine. His response: "I'm sorry I'm not an expert on overprinting."

His listing disclaimer does say: "For details about the item, check - images, Condition description and Item specifics. Item in the picture is the item that you will receive."
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Posted 09/03/2015   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/01/2015   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jobi01 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please include the picture(s) from the ebay lot(s) because this thread will remain long after ebay discontinues the listing.
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Posted 11/01/2015   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SeeBee wrote: "overprinted Schonbach Sudetenland is so obviously fake - not only is the cancel location wrong (Pilsen), the year date is wrong (1922). Sudetenland was not created until 1938!"

Jobi01 wrote: Please include the picture(s) from the ebay lot(s) because this thread will remain long after ebay discontinues the listing.

Here is the picture: http://www.northernneck.com/images/...-Oct2015.jpg

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Edited by oldguy - 11/01/2015 12:44 pm
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Posted 11/01/2015   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BK Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just report his ugly butt to APS..........JMHO
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Posted 11/01/2015   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great info ekbustad, thanks very much
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Posted 11/01/2015   11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, it is an interesting forgery in my opinion. There are two letters in the typesetting that are sans-serif and of the wrong size; they are inconsistent for the rest of the overprint (the "p" in occupation and the "e" in anglaise). So, I would certainly pay a few dollars for this item, but not what the final bidder paid.

This being said, I wouldn't buy from a person who plays dumb and didn't identify the item as forgery.

ebay is ebay, and they don't really care...as we all know.
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