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Minkus Global Supreme - "New" On Ebay

 
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Posted 09/28/2015   7:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Eric99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I just purchased a "new" copy of the 1954 edition of the Minkus Global Supreme album. Still in the original box and advertised as being stored in a closet for 50 years. Volume One contains 137 U.S. stamps and 1 Canadian stamp. Volume Two doesn't contain a single stamp. I guess the sole Canadian stamp made the collection a worldwide collection. My plan is to use the albums to house my meager collection and work on expanding it. I have a couple of questions I hope I can get some help with.

First, if I'd like to expand the album to 1961 (thereby allowing my collection to include all stamps older than myself), the easiest course of action would be to purchase the 1953-1963 supplement that Amos is selling. I believe that those pages would be on heavier paper than my original pages. Can someone confirm that? Is the color of the paper for Amos' print-on-demand supplement close to the original? I could also try and track down the appropriate annual supplements. Assuming I can find them, any ideas as to what I should expect to pay? The Amos pages expansion pages would be 4 times what I paid for the base album, would tracking down the supplement be cheaper? Would I end up with the same additional pages regardless of my course of action? If not, what would the differences be?

Second, since I collect primarily used and hinge my stamps, interleaving seems necessary. It looks like I have a choice between glassine or acetate. I'm leaning toward glassine as the traditional option, any comments one way or the other? Can anyone recommend a good source for purchasing?

Third, one of the first pages of the album instructs me to purchase the required 72 Coats of Arms stamps and 82 flag stamps from Minkus (for $0.50). Any ideas, other than ebay, as to where I could track a set down? I'm relatively certain I'll be paying more that I would have in 1954, but sometimes you have to bite the bullet for such important items.

Any words of advice as I embark on my Minkus Global Supreme journey?


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Posted 09/28/2015   8:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
once you eed but so much you might as well buy a diff album, those coats of arms stamps and flag stamps are not real stamps but common in foreign albums, havent seen them seperate but havent looked it usually the first thing people stick in there and usually lick and stick too not hinged.
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Posted 09/28/2015   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I just purchased a "new" copy of the 1954 edition of the Minkus Global Supreme album. Still in the original box and advertised as being stored in a closet for 50 years.


Congrats! If one goes by the number of stamp spaces included, one can argue that the 1954 Minkus Global Supreme was the best "representative" WW album ever produced for the WW general collector.

A true classic!

I did a review of the Supreme- if you haven't seen it already, check out...

http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.co...bum-for.html


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First, if I'd like to expand the album to 1961 (thereby allowing my collection to include all stamps older than myself), the easiest course of action would be to purchase the 1953-1963 supplement that Amos is selling. I believe that those pages would be on heavier paper than my original pages. Can someone confirm that?


Compared to me, you are a stripling!

The 1953-1963 supplement is indeed on heavy (80 lb?) paper, and has a white color, similar to the original. As a bonus, the Minkus numbers are printed on all the spaces for the 1953-1963 supplement. Be aware that mainland (communist) China will probably not be included (It wasn't for me), but the Taiwan spaces were. I asked about that, and amosadvantage, to their credit, did send supplemental mainland China pages to me eventually.


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Second, since I collect primarily used and hinge my stamps, interleaving seems necessary. It looks like I have a choice between glassine or acetate. I'm leaning toward glassine as the traditional option, any comments one way or the other? Can anyone recommend a good source for purchasing?


Actually, I went with G & K Interleaving sheets- Crystal Clear Film to fit Minkus 2-post or 3-ring 9 1/2" X 11" album- Product No. GM-ACE12P available at Subway Stamps.

Have fun!
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Jkblue excellent blog post. I'm all the more curious about the Minkus album and really like that the follow-on supplement takes things all the way to 1962. Will check it out!
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Posted 09/29/2015   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Eric99 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jkjblue -

I've been on your blog many times. It provided some of the motivation for me to expand my U.S. only collection. I just finishing re-reading your review of the Minkus Supreme and have a question for you. You mention that the reprints you purchased from Amos contain 1,068 double sided pages.

Volume One of the 1954 originals I purchased has a title page that gives the following information: 38,219 stamps, 19,985 illustrations, 1,008 pages. Volume Two's title page gives: 38,452 stamps, 20,390 illustrations, 1,008 pages.

Any idea when the extra 60 pages in the reprints come from?

Eric

p.s. Maybe you should start a new blog - The Supremes 1840-1952. You're up to "S" countries already for Big Blue and are probably looking for another challenge. And if you do, I wouldn't have to try and track down a Minkus Worldwide catalog.
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I'm all the more curious about the Minkus album and really like that the follow-on supplement takes things all the way to 1962. Will check it out!


Shermae- good luck with that. The Supremes offer more spaces (in general), including watermark differences than Big Blue. I think the Supremes are a definite contender for the affection of the WW collector. But BB is more elegant in presentation, and Minkus numbers are "deader than a doornail".


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You mention that the reprints you purchased from Amos contain 1,068 double sided pages.

Volume One of the 1954 originals I purchased has a title page that gives the following information: 38,219 stamps, 19,985 illustrations, 1,008 pages. Volume Two's title page gives: 38,452 stamps, 20,390 illustrations, 1,008 pages.

Any idea when the extra 60 pages in the reprints come from?


Eric- My figures are from the amosadvantage website..

Part IA US-Italian Somaliland 1840-1952 517 2-sided sheets
Part IB Italy-Zanzibar 1840-1952 551 2-sided sheets

It certainly appears that the 1840-1952 Supremes are similar to the original 1954 edition. For instance, there are no Minkus numbers in the spaces, except for the US. I think the difference is the reprint that amosadvantage sells adds coverage to 1953 and more? at times for certain countries when the pages were redesigned in later years. I noticed there is a bit of redundancy between the end of coverage years for the 1840-1952 reprint Supreme, and the beginning of the 1953-1963 supplement coverage pages.

I doubt if there is actually a real difference between the 1954 Supreme edition, and the reprint edition that amosadvantage sells, except for perhaps a little more coverage past 1952.


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Maybe you should start a new blog - The Supremes 1840-1952. You're up to "S" countries already for Big Blue and are probably looking for another challenge. And if you do, I wouldn't have to try and track down a Minkus Worldwide catalog.


Not going to happen. I already bit off almost more than I can chew.

If some obsessive and detailed oriented WW collector is looking for a "fun" project and blog topic by all means, go for it!
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Edited by Jkjblue - 09/29/2015 3:59 pm
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Posted 09/29/2015   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1840to1940 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I definitely recommend finding a set of used Minkus catalogs. Not only will it help answer questions about what Minkus intended to go in the album, I've found the catalogs contain info not in Scott. The only downside was, at least when I was in the market, most vendors weren't selling both volumes of the catalog. I ended up buying from two different sources and my catalogs are a year apart. Hopefully, you won't have that problem.
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