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Posted 10/13/2015   10:16 am  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One pet peeve I have- sellers with BIN or Make Offer options who NEVER answer your offer. They just let it expire- just a 'no thanks' would be appreciated. In some of these cases I offered nearly the full BIN price with no result. Why offer this option if you won't sell for a bit less?
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Posted 10/13/2015   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Like I said - I just don't get it. I guess that's why North Americans really can't handle a European flea market.
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Posted 10/13/2015   6:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Like I said - I just don't get it. I guess that's why North Americans really can't handle a European flea market.

Flea markets in America are not comparable to "BIN".
The are absolutely "Or Best Offer"!

A vendor selling wares at an American flea market, that is unwilling to negotiate a price, is going to be dragging most of their goods back home.

Are European markets different?


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Posted 10/13/2015   9:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As the teens say - "whatever." Just raised an issue - about an opportunity collectors are missing.
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Posted 10/13/2015   10:01 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I have purchased a handful of Langs' offerings where he accepted an offer. The problem is that his stuff is so overpriced to begin with, than even after he accepts an offer it is still overpriced, by a large margin. So I do this only for items I really desire and do not see offered anywhere else.


I would rather do without than pay his outrageous prices.
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Posted 10/13/2015   10:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's called lack of basic manners.
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Posted 10/14/2015   12:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CanadaStamp, I just reread your original post. I hadn't read the edited version. I find it odd that people don't take advantage of 'make an offer'.
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Posted 10/14/2015   08:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't understand the nocking of Lang for his prices ,if he raises prices for material you can't find anywhere else ,that is called making a market in my business .
I was a trader of Soybeans ,if two or twenty people are bidding to buy beans at $5.00 and no one has beans to sell at $5.00 ,I make a market and sell at a much higher price. That is how the market works .When I was building my Egypt collection and KELLEHER AUCTIONS had a rare collection up for auction , I was paying 120% to 160% of catalog for some items because that material only comes up for sale once every 6 to 10 years --------SORRY, IF IT IS UNUSAL MATERIAL , YOUR GOING TO HAVE TO BEAT EVERYONE ONE ELSE PRICE WISE , TO GET IT .
Too many of you swim at the bottom and buy common stuff and want to pay some kind of reduce price ....... pay for the best and then you have something special ........Shees I need to slap a few heads here ....or ....get me a first cup of coffee this morning .
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Posted 10/14/2015   09:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
floortrader,

You seem to be responding to me. I only "nock" Lang's pricing because it is for the most part highly unreasonable. He has items that have been listed for years, and they will not sell at the prices he asks for because they are commonly available from other sellers for 1/3 or even 1/4 of his asking price. It is as if he doesn't understand how the market works. But by all accounts he is not dumb, so he's satisfied with the results of his pricing. Yes, he does have some items that are scarce and hard to come by elsewhere, and in those instances you can seemingly rationalize his prices. But you cannot rationalize prices 3 to 4 times what others are asking for commonly available items. That makes no sense.
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Posted 10/14/2015   09:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
eyeonwall,

I think floortrader is right, in the limited case where Lang has items not available elsewhere. In that case how can you say his prices are overpriced? I see it somewhat like the question of where items on ebay are likely to sell in relation to CV. Common items will often go for 1/4 or 1/3 of CV. The more scarce or desirable an item is, the closer it gets to CV. The problem I have with Lang's is that he seems to think he can get the same kind of price in relation to CV for a common item as he can get for a scarce item.

The nice think about a free market is that if you don't want to pay Lang's prices, even on scarce items, you don't have to. And if I want to, after getting it marked down 10-15% with offer, I can. I don't do it often, and I always look hard to see if others have what I want before I resort to Lang.
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Posted 10/14/2015   09:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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... I asked if he would make a package deal if I bought both items. No response from the seller at all ... I know if I was selling something that's been sitting for 5 days already with no takers, and I got a message like I sent, I'd be falling all over myself to respond one way or another ...


After five days? If that's true, you probably should not try to make a living in sales.
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Posted 10/14/2015   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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After five days? If that's true, you probably should not try to make a living in sales.

Agreed. If I want to sell an item that quickly, I'll put it up at auction with a low start price. I assume that most buy-it-now items will sit there for weeks or even months before they find a taker.
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Posted 10/14/2015   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HungaryForStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you are willing to take offers you should use Make an Offer. If you use Buy it Now only (with no Make an Offer button), I assume you want the asking price. If your BIN price is absurdly high, I will not make an offer even if Make an Offer is used. To me, this indicates the seller is out of touch with reality and life is too short to risk dealing with someone that might have real ethical challenges.

If I were to sell strictly BIN without Make an Offer you would not get a response from me were you to assume BIN meant something else.

The buttons are there for a reason people. Use them.
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Posted 10/14/2015   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see here again and again - potential buyers second guessing sellers. Listen to me. It costs you NOTHING to make a low offer on on a BIN. NOTHING. You do not have to revoke your religious beliefs. Or sell a child. Fer gosh sakes folks lighten up and get a deal.
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Posted 10/14/2015   7:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It costs you NOTHING to make a low offer on on a BIN. NOTHING.


Keep thinking like that....I am sure you
are on many blocked bidder lists.

Do you think a seller wants to entertain a lowball offer??
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