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Posted 10/20/2015   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add SILVAFOX to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have a series of stamps with same design(diff. colors. I can not find them in my 2009 Scott's. I have looked in Japan, China, PRC,and countries occupied by Japan in WW2.
I would appreciate any help I can find.

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Posted 10/20/2015   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SWH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You'll find this to be Netherlands Indies, Occupation issues, Scott # N29
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Posted 10/20/2015   3:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hobsun013 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SWH,

I see you are from the Netherlands, how in the world would anyone else get this ID without being from the Netherlands. Any clues in the stamp itself? I spent time looking at the Japanese occupation areas but did not even look there. Are you aware of any references in the Japan section that would lead one to look in Netherlands Indies. Just trying to see how I could have got to your answer. Thanks
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Posted 10/20/2015   4:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm confused as to why this was initially posted here to begin with being that this section is for US Precancels.

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Posted 10/20/2015   7:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SILVAFOX to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To SWH. Thanks for pointing me to Netherland Indies found the set where you indicated.
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Posted 10/21/2015   04:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SWH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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SWH,

I see you are from the Netherlands, how in the world would anyone else get this ID without being from the Netherlands. Any clues in the stamp itself? I spent time looking at the Japanese occupation areas but did not even look there. Are you aware of any references in the Japan section that would lead one to look in Netherlands Indies. Just trying to see how I could have got to your answer. Thanks
Hobsun


I don't think there's a reference in the Scott Japan section. In the particular case of Japan it helps that I not only use the Scott catalog but also the Michel catalog - that often lists occupation stamps with the occupying country rather than the occupied country.

When you visit my site http://www.stampworldhistory.com/ you will find I have a special interest in the historical context of stamps issued - and possibly info of interest when looking into Japan.
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Posted 10/21/2015   07:36 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From memory, Gibbons also lists Japanese occupation issues under Dutch East Indies.
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Posted 10/21/2015   11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hobsun013 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

SWH

Thanks for the reply. I have only used the Scott catalogues to date but may try the Michel ones in the future. In my case an older version would likely work fine as I would not need the most current versions.

So if I understand correctly nothing on the stamp itself (meaning any letter combinations or other indicators) or anything in the Japan section of the Scott catalogue lead you to Netherland Indies. The lettering on the stamps basically indicated a Japanese occupation stamp and one would essentially work their way through the various occupied countries to get to the answer. I tried the illustrated guide in the world stamp almanac and it does at least tell you that is was an occupation stamp but that was all I could get.

Thanks again for your input.
Hobsun




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Posted 10/22/2015   03:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SWH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hobsun013

I guess the script and the flag would lead to Japan. For me - using the Michel catalog as my primary source - things from there on were easy as the occupation issues for all occupied countries are listed at the back of Japan.
I noticed that the Scott identifier has examples of issues for some of the occupied countries. They show that the lettering at the top indicates Japanese occupation while the lettering at the bottom is often the country name. Sadly the occupation issues for the Netherlands Indies are not shown. In a way misleading as one might be tempted to think that the examples are a complete representation of the occupation issues and look no further.

When it comes trying the Michel catalog I would suggest to pick up one volume of the Michel catalog and see how it works for you. The Michel has some advantages over the Scott catalog. It lists more stamp issuing entities - worldwide 2674 in Michel vs. 2089 in Scott, provides more details on numbers issued, printers, engravers and has images most often of all stamps in a set where Scott often has one image only to show the basic design. All this comes at a price though: a full set of Michel catalogs costs a small fortune - 3 to 4 times what a set of Scott would cost. As the Michel in my country is the standard catalog it was really the only option for me but I still work with the set I bought in the 1990's. An interesting option you may want to look into is the online version of the Michel catalog. At a cost of € 9.99 a month you get full worldwide coverage. http://www.briefmarken.de/michelsho...ine-kataloge

In case you want to compare the coverage of stamp issuing entities you can check my list of stamp issuing entities where I have indicated what entities are listed in what catalogs. You will find that the difference is mainly in local and private issues. Also you can get a feel for how the Michel catalog is structured - as in what is listed where - because the list is set up using Michel as the primary source.
http://www.stampworldhistory.com/st...ng-entities/


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