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Re: Modern Fake Stamps Are Flooding The Market

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Posted 11/07/2015   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WOW ---Looks like the printer got tired of holding all those worthless stamps and consign all those stamps to a auction firm to recover his printing cost . Just goes to show you the value of less than a penny per stamp , but you are selling those mark SPECIMEN for a couple of hundred dollars on your website .
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Posted 11/07/2015   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Quite bitter when your shown up aye? Resorting back to you,you,you....
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Posted 11/07/2015   11:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SHODAN ---The only thing I am bitter about is that I can't knock this guy out with a punch or submit him on the ground .....do you have any ideas that would help me .

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Edited by floortrader - 11/07/2015 11:38 am
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Posted 11/07/2015   11:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Original poster wrote on Nov. 4: "well, it is not my loss.....it will be yours and your friends and your relatives."

This dude is really a "master projectionist." I don't collect this junk; originals or forgeries; and don't much care if somebody gets taken in. Let the buyer beware. If one really wants this stuff, better to buy it from Mystic or Kenmore. And none of my friends or relatives collect stamps. Otherwise, the thread has been entertaining. And, no, I'm not bitter, or any of those other epithets that the original poster showers upon those who don't quite agree with him.

floortrader: thanks for your forgery posts. Is there a link to those and more?
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Posted 11/07/2015   12:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Steve--I will be making a website for both forgeries and Cinderella stamps much like the WITT COLLECTION in 2016 , which I really like and the motivation for me to do it. The WITT stuff is getting dated and lots of new stuff is floating around. So spending my time on fighting in the gym and stamps in retirement ,that is SHAQ in the picture with me at 7 ft 1 inch and close to 360 lbs ,a great friend and a work out partner .
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Posted 11/07/2015   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Only way to win with that guy is to fight dirty!

Look...I am just posting to get the word out that these fakes are being produced right now in massive quantities and are indeed being flooded on the market. As you can see by the one lot it is extending to other countries and issues.

It effects millions of collectors all over the world.
The buyer may be Mystic or Kenmore because they are unaware they even exist.

I have collected on a massive scale. From U.S. #1 on cover to Egypt #1 to 1000 mint. So if you think I am not knowledgeable well, heh, it doesn't matter.

Posting that you don't collect or that they are worthless, only in your eyes I might add, does not help anyone that it does effect. Those people are reading through this thread preferring not to post because certain "players" here want to cut down anything constructive they may wish to add.

Perhaps they know who is making them. Perhaps they know other sources these forgeries are moving through. Perhaps they have been ripped off and want to join the fight against these people. Perhaps your comments are keeping them away from posting it.

I am just the messenger.
And I will post each set that is verified on the website and here if I so choose to. You cannot stop it because it is bigger than you or me. It entails the whole world and just because you don't like a particular set or sets of stamps is really....meaningless. There are thousands that do and you cannot deny that fact anymore....

Oh and we do already know who the big guy is. Good for you. You know a celebrity. You know how to fight.
I know how to kill...I was....military....so what? Does that make me a bigger and higher ranking stamp collector? Not....

Doesn't have anything to do with the thread.
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Posted 11/07/2015   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Latest page created.
some don't like LOTW stamp issues because of the bad rap. Many do though and so...here is.

British Virgin Islands 1985 85th Birthday of Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother. Scott 509-16.
The imperforate set has been forged. 10,000 sets are flooding the market right now! Also inverts have been put on the market. Surely the normal issue is out there....forged as well.
Here is an image of the fakes. Can you see the difference?



It effects Royalty Collectors, British Queen Collectors, Variety collectors and Worldwide Collectors.
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Posted 11/07/2015   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mikyh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shodan, can we stick to one issue at a time. You haven't answered any of my questions. You have not provided any evidence that these stamps are flooding the market as I can't even see anyone buying the normal issue let alone 10,000 fakes. Again, please provide a link to at least one fake stamp being offered on ebay, everyone else does. How can 100s and 1000s of collectors be affected when you can't provide one link?

The same applied to the St. Vincent World Cup 1986 set referred to on page 2 of this thread. I can only find a few "normal" stamps sold over the last 3 months worldwide on ebay yet you claim there are 40,000 (10,000 of 4 values) of these flooding the market. Your figures don't add up!

Check stampsmarter.com to see how to do this properly, full details of each dodgy stamp are provided.


Mike
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Posted 11/07/2015   2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
mikyh, Shodan has not mentioned anything about "regular" issues of these stamps, but rather alleged forged inverts, proofs, imperfs, etc. Of course I'm sure it's only a coincidence that Shodan himself sells "legitimate" examples of these "errors" which he purchased from Kasimir Bileski, who bought them directly from the printer following some sort of legal action. If nothing else, constant beating of the drum about these stickers may create interest where none existed before.
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Edited by Jenny2U - 11/07/2015 2:32 pm
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Posted 11/07/2015   2:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok you guys.
I am going to risk it all since you cannot seem to follow simple instructions.
Here is a link to an ongoing lot of nevis birds.
Then....follow the clues....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-X-NEVIS-...AOSw7hRWOfgN

Here is one for one of the Soccer souvenir sheets
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-X-ST-VIN...AOSwwbdWOfhq

Now follow the clues.
Don't give me "nobody bidding" thing because bids happen near the end of listing.
Look up the completed listings.
Then you will realize what is happening.
these lots are going to dealers and sellers all over the world.

Jenny
unless you know what you are talking about....
Bileski was a major buyer of the Format archive sold at Christie's.
Bileski was a major buyer of the Waterloo archives
Bileski was a major buyer of the Egyptian Royal Collections
do I have to continue?

And I did not buy them from him. I bought them in the estate sales after his death! Because I know what they are because I did the research.


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Edited by Shodan - 11/07/2015 2:48 pm
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Posted 11/07/2015   2:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I know very well who Bileski is. And it looks to me like you're targeting a competitor of yours who is doing good business. 25,000+ feedback and not a single negative about forgeries. Time for us to move on.
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Posted 11/07/2015   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And they are only two of the items listed in the imaged 17,000 Euro lot.
Now do you understand the scope of it?
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Posted 11/07/2015   3:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jenny
I am going to ignore your last statement.
I don't have competitors.
you obviously have no clue and are one who only wants to fight.
Find one lot that is the same as what I sell there.
Walking around blind....
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Posted 11/07/2015   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mikyh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shodan, re first link above, armi777, you appear to be one of their best customers, 50 purchases in the last month for which you have left glowing feedback!

Why no NEGATIVE FEEDBACK to warn other buyers!!
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Posted 11/07/2015   3:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Simple...bad feedback...can't get hands on the stuff...
already contacted...no results.
Already reported...no results.
what do you think? It's ebay.
He is a victim anyway.
Trying to make his money back.

the big auction house he got them from knows that the consignor is one and the same. water under the bridge now.

P.S. if you look closely I bought just one (well a couple I got 2 or 3) lots of each forgery. The rest...other buyers
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Edited by Shodan - 11/07/2015 3:32 pm
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