Re: Modern Fake Stamps Are Flooding The Market

May I recommend to the moderator that this thread be ended? NOT to prevent the discussion about fake and dubious stamps, which is admirable, but to stop Mr Lowe from bringing down the very high standards that have always previously applied to this forum. It is clear that civility goes out of the window whenever this gentleman is involved. Adding further comments here merely adds fuel to the fire of a man who clearly LOVES being involved with conflict and conspiracy theories. He somehow "draws you in" and posters above who have never been uncivil in any other threads become so. Enough is enough.

I second the motion

I wish a moderator would delete the non useful banter.

I like crouse27's comment and suggest the owner of this forum start deleting your comments that have nothing to do with the subject of this thread!!

You are obviously cronies from the other forum of which thousands of us know use these juvenile tactics to thwart subjects that your "leader" and his minion
1.)disagree with for personal agenda
2.)don't know anything about and thus cannot comment without looking unknowledgeable
3.)Has a vendetta against anyone who has the guts to stand up against him and his kind.

I took him all the way to the APS board of directors folks and almost got him kicked, so indeed he does have an agenda here. Ummm...errr....how are those "Black Caviar" stamps selling.

lithograving started the banter on page 2
area66 chimed in as I knew he would. First signs.
lithograving researches his favorite forum and find LOTW thread and then uses it to try to "railroad" this thread. view the remarks.
pagoda comes in with intelligent comments bottom of page 3
bookbndrbob comes in on page 4 with the comedian routine. Nothing useful to this thread.
Others start on the website.

Here is a comment just received via the site today and what keeps me going:
Comments = Fabulous site! Well done.. I collect Guyana Reichenbachias - have several 100s-none yet in albums-not had the time too busy! Also collect G.B., Norway, Hong Kong & Peru! Been collecting stamps from the age of 2! I'm now 72... Does anyone do an album for the Reichenbachias? Best wishes, Bob.

I get many so thus why should I change it for the few here.

From that point your bantor continues. Therefore the thread only shows who really is the problem here.

Now, just like I said in the other forum. Get off of me and get on to the subject of the thread!
1.)III did not create the forgeries
2.)III am not selling the forgeries
3.)III am simply the discoverer because of my research which apparently there is jealousy involved here because certain forum "dwellers" didn't get to it first to be able to take the credit for the discoveries because they are too busy "dwelling".
4.)III am simply the messenger
5.)III don't care if you like me or not. That sounds like a personal problem to me and is not my problem...

If the owner wishes to delete or redact any comment I posted it is his privilege and right to do. To be fair I ask that he also delete or redact non-helpful comments by you as well which is about half of this thread. The same thing happened "over there". Caused by the above listed group which tries to dominate forums to maintain their own forum which is designed to sell their own stamps mainly to "bunnies".

Now I am going to continue to post images and descriptions of the stamps being forged here.
I will continue until the thread is closed which I doubt it will be because the owner is intelligent and is also not privy to this childish behavior.
I will ignore childish, vindictive comments made by the few.
I will ignore put downs and comments that railroad this thread from the subject of this thread.
I will ignore the "comedians"

I will ignore this because research and getting the word out on these is more important than dealing with a small group of people who seem to be intent on not getting the word out to the millions of collectors out there.

Now...get to work copying and pasting my comments to continue your bantor....

If your comments are useful to the thread I will answer.
If not......ignored. Boy they hated that on the other forum

Latest page created.
some don't like LOTW trains and cars issues because of the bad rap. Many do though and so...here is.

Saint Vincent Union Island 1986 4th Series automobiles. Scott 145,150,153,157,160,163.
The normal set has been forged. 10,000 sets are flooding the market right now!
Here is an image of them. Can you see the difference?




It effects car collectors, St. Vincent collectors, worldwide collectors.

A medication adjustment is indicated here.

Forgery has and always will be a major concern for stamp collectors so anyone that works to combat stamp forgery, whether through websites, threads in forums or other means should be commended.

Elsewhere however full details are always supplied. I don't see any detail on this thread, just vague comments. Take the previous example:

How do you know 10,000 stamps are flooding the market?

These stamps are not in great demand, are very low in value and rarely sold (check the sold listings on ebay, along with your other examples), why would someone flood the market with 10,000 when there is no market for the original?

Could we please have links to the alleged forged stamps.


Mike

I make a serious price offer for this trash and I get ignored . Who but me has spend thousands of dollars on forgeries and spend many hours working at the APS Headquarters on their collection . These fakes will fall into the same group as the HIALEA FAKES that where coming out of Florida back in the early 2000's and sold by the hundreds to ebay buyers . They and these are worth less than 25 cents each and are nice novelities to add to a forgery collection .
Save the insults about people here ,there are a lot of nice people here and who are willing to help others out and give freely of their time so save your generalization .

floortrader

Must be because you forget to put on that lod futures floor jacket,

Geoff

Hello mikyh.
Finally a useful post.

The question on quantity is valid.
I know the quantities because I know the lots that were sold at a major auction house.

I cannot "link" to specific lots because I am an upstanding ebay buyer and seller and thus would be breaking ebay policies and thus jeopardizing my account.

I have already given you the clues to find them on ebay yourselves.
1.)Latvian based sellers on ebay. High volume ones.
2.)Nevis birds

Others and I have been working with the auction house and succeeded in having numerous lots withdrawn from recent sales. the consignor will never be welcome there again.

The problem with auction houses in general is the anonymity factor. The buyers and the consignors are kept anonymous. They have told us who the consignor is verbally but so far it is not in written form.
therefore if the owner of the auction house does nothing like report it to the proper authorities then the consignor will get the forgeries returned and be able to continue.

It is very bad if this happens because the material will be released by any number of other means. If the auction house does nothing then others will be reporting them to the PTS, ASDA and so forth. Exposing it in philatelic news and magazines is also a possibility.

I cannot name the consignor here or anywhere else at this time because of defamation rules. Without solid documented proof the consignor is free to do what they want at will. They will do just that and have been doing it for decades because they are very powerful.

Imaged below is one lot that was sold in April. The final hammer price was 17,000 Euro. I was able to cross reference it to the lots sold on ebay and thus know who the buyer is. Again, sorry I cannot name names. Now should any of you name names...well...it wasn't me!

Here is the image. This lot was huge and there were others

Here is how people explained forgeries and fakes 60 years ago and it still works now ,maybe you need to show people what your talking about .

floortrader...view the webpages. They are far more advanced than your 60 year old pages.

Forgot the link?
Here it is again.
http://golowesstamps.com/reference/...e_stamps.htm as long as I am allowed.
Umm I am at 42 posts now.

How people explain fakes and forgeries on this board

How I explain fakes and forgeries on the web




This is the 1985 85th Birthday issue for Virgin Islands. Page is almost done. Inverts and imperforates I have verified as fakes. the imperfs are listed in the lot imaged above. 10,000 sets