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Did Scott Ever Produce A 'Release Date Order' Catalog?

 
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Posted 12/07/2015   6:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add nick777vvv to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Do you know whether Scott ever produced a catalog that listed all stamps by release date? In other words, amalgamating all the BOB listings, semi postals, airmails etc in order of date release, in a similar way to Gibbons.

I only collect pre 1940 and would be happier with an old catalog formatted in this way than with a current catalog with the existing presentation.
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Posted 12/07/2015   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know of anything.
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Posted 12/08/2015   01:09 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you only collecting US? If so, you could simply combine a recent edition of SG's US catalogue with a recent Scott.
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Posted 12/08/2015   03:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nick777vvv to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No Worldwide.

I do have a Scott Classic Specialised but much prefer a release date order format. As Scott has now been around for nearly 150 years (expect something special in 2018) I wondered whether the current format had existed from the very start or whether older catalogs may differ...
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Posted 12/08/2015   05:55 am  Show Profile Check paperhistory's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paperhistory to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 1928 Scott has a US section that includes airmail in with the regular issues but still splits out other BOB issues, revenues, envelopes, etc. into different sections.
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Posted 12/08/2015   05:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nick777vvv to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm. That's useful. I wonder how long the airmails stayed integrated before they got demoted to BOB status...?
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Posted 12/08/2015   06:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Glenn Estus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
either 1939 or 1940 catalog, I believe
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My 1937 Scott has the airmails split out from the main listings. The catalog numbers for the airmails start at 1300 (I think)--there is no "C" prefix.

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The Scott numbering system has developed over the years. Looking through several catalogs at hand at US airmail listings:

In the 1929 World catalog, what we now call C1-C3 were 520-522, and C4-C6 were 608-610.

In the 1930 World catalog, C1-C6 were removed from the general issues to become 1300-1305 and remained ths way at least through the 1939 Specialized.

By the 1940 World catalog, the alphabet letter prefixes are applied and the airmail issues become C1-C6.

On a related note of catalog number evolution, Scott still started their numbering with the postmaster provisionals in 1942. What we now call 1 and 2 were 28 and 29. Sometime between the 1942 and 1953, The postmaster provisionals were given their current numbering system and Scott 1-2 finally become 1-2.
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I've noticed that my older Michel USA-Specialized (2003-2004)lists release dates as well as quantity issued.
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Good info John
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I've noticed that my older Michel USA-Specialized (2003-2004)lists release dates as well as quantity issued.
The Scott catalogs list release dates. But it doesn't order the issues by release date, which is what the OP was asking.
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Perhaps, one day, we'll get a digital edition that allows for a customised catalog. A date release order catalog that I could access on my iPad would be perfect...but I'm not holding my breath...
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Amos Press would have to move the Scott Catalog information to a database containing data accumulated over the years from various sources. The database would not be useful without credibility assessments and links to original sources. From this a catalog could be produced keeping in mind that a catalog is a report. Some stamps have no actual issue date. Many have an earliest documented use that has changed multiple times when an earlier use is discovered or the incumbent EDU is overturned.

Unfortunately, Amos Press does not have a database, or at least not a useful one. Multiple inconsistencies appear in the catalog every year suggesting that the layout is not far removed from hot lead type setting and wood block illustrations.

My concern is not whether a catalog ordered by this year's version of the issue date, but whether we will continue to have a catalog at all.

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