Plate Numbers On Modern Strips Of PNC?

Hello,

I was going through a high-end dealer's collection recently and came across these random strips of modern-looking stamps. Since I really don't pay a lot of attention (which could change) on anything past the 50's, I was hoping to see if someone could shed some light on if these are collectible or just some more common stamps?

Well ... they`re kind of interesting. They`re serpentine die cuts and both stamps come in two varieties. 2908 and 2909 for the tail fin and 2911 and 2912 for the juke box. There is also a 2912A--in my catalog at least--but I don`t know what distinguishes it.

EDIT: For the record, they don't look like serpentine die cuts to me. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

Thanks KGB. Honestly most of that went way over my head but it sounds like these were worth the time of scanning and posting them before throwing them in the junk/sell box.

Dw9540, the strips you posted are plate number coils (PNC's). They are identified by the small plate numbers on the front(!) of the stamps. The plate numbers are on the middle stamps of your strips, and they start with a letter followed by one or more numbers. The numbers on the back of the strips are counting numbers. The are used by people at the post office to make counting off a bunch of stamps easy or by users to see how many stamps are left on the roll.
Plate numbers are collected as a separate discipline, if you like to know more about them please visit http://pnc3.org .
Back numbers are also collected as a sub specialty of PNC collecting. On your strips they are all neatly on the back of the plate numbered stamp, but in real life they can be found anywhere on the roll.
Again, these stamps are highly collectible, especially in strips of 5 ( PS5's ). Some are quite valueable and highly sought after.
To clear up a point, none of your strips have serpentine die cuts. Those only occur on the self sticking stamps we use nowadays. The stamps shown on this page all have water activated gum ( WAG )!

Peter

Dw9540, I forgot something important. Reading your two posts it occurred to me that you are going to delegate these to the junk box. Well, they are very sellable. The one you are showing would bring maybe a dollar or two each, and I do not know if you have more of them. If you would like to look them up I have a website for you:
http://www.angelfire.com/sd2/coilnu...WebMain.html . I have no interest in Michael Lipson's business!
Also, some of these stamps are not usable without a permit. All of the strips you show are for specific purposes
such as mass mailers!

Peter

Thanks KGB, I have strips of all of those as well.

Thank you Peter and I have hundreds of these strips (many with different plate numbers) so I'll try my best to research these as effectively as possible before I sell them.

Thanks again.

Dw9540, if you have any of the Transportation Coils I might be interested! And if you have hundreds of these you might go to the PNC3 website, http://PNC3.org

Peter

KGB, and anyone else that needs to know, here is the story on the 25 cent juke box.

Scott 2911 untagged, 1995 dark plate # 111111 , 212222 , 222222 & 332222.
2912 untagged, 1995 light plate # S 11111 & S 22222.
2912A untagged, 1996 plate # S 11111 & S 22222.
2912A tagged, 1996 plate # S 22222.
2912B untagged, 1997 plate # 111111 & 222222.

The tagged version of 2912A was a mistake at the printers - this stamp should not have been tagged since it is a service inscribed stamp.

Peter

Thanks, Peter!

I remember when PNCs were collected in strips of three.

Then - surprise! - stringency was added to stringency, and we began to collect PNCs in strips of five.

(I think the idea was that a strip of five would 'protect' the 'complete' perforations on all of the stamps in the strip of three, but I'll happily listen to another explanation. If nothing else, this resolved the question of whether/not the perf tailings were as long as they could be.)

In addition to being salable, PNCs are also collectible.

As always, I prefer GPUOP (Genuinely Postally Used, On Piece), but that's me.

2015 Red Knot 'plate' P111, of the Coastal Birds Postcard Stamp Series, FDoI 20150601, cds New York City 20151215, with one of those shpritzy cancels that I think ... oh, never mind, I'll spare you.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

ikey - The switch to plate strips of 5 was driven by precancel gap collectors and gap dealers so that more gap locations could be captured in a strip, and it caught on with non-gap collectors.

Dw - The strips in the original post appear to be warped/wrinkled, which will reduce their value.

Thank you, eyeonwall.

I'm new to all this but someone on the boards just gave me a copy of the '2012 Durland Standard Plate Number Catalog' so I looked up the jukebox stamp and I think there might be one that PeterT4522 missed in his post. Scott #3132, plate M11111

I have a few questions on counting numbers. Are they on all coils or only on the Non-Profit/Bulk-Rate stamps. How often (the interval) where they printed? And do they still print them on the back of stamps?

I have two current non profit stamps that I clipped off envelopes this year and just held them in front of a light bulb to try to see through the stamps, but neither have a number.

dsmith426:

In the old days, the plate number appeared on every 25th stamp.

The plate number is on the front of the stamp, not the back.

See mine, above.