Hi... Penny Red Help Needed

I have an no perforation penny red on bluish white paper and was wondering what range of value these are? Thanks, Im new here.



*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***

Sorry about the poor photo, the letters in the squares are G and L

There's a range of values depending on the plate that the individual stamp was printed from and the shade. The commoner ones have a dealer price of around £3 or £4 if they have four margins, whereas yours only has three.

This is 1841 issue but could have been used anywhere from 1841-1854. 1854 is when imperf became perforated for QV 1d reds. As it cut at the top through the word POSTAGE its maybe only worth 99 cents. If your lucky. I sell these on covers in my shop and always feel they are more attractive on an envelope rather than as a loose stamp on its own. Full 4 margins always seem to sell better. Take a look at the few 1d red covers I have on in my ebay lots.

As others have said, the value depends upon which plate it is from. Minimum Catalogue £30, Maximum Catalogue £4000 . Actual value very much less.

Whatever the nominal Catalogue price, having only three margins cuts it by a factor of ten, having two margins by a factor of 100.

I specialise in this issue, so if you can put up a good scan of the stamp on a flat surface, I might be able to be more specific. The check letters' positions and orientations sometimes give a clue as to the plate number, as does any other abnormality.
It looks as if two margins are cut into, which makes the actual value a matter of cents rather than dollars. However, regard it as a conversation piece rather than a financial asset - every cancelled stamp is a miniature historical document !

The numbered obliteration suggests cancellation post 1844, the fact that it is imperforate suggests pre 1854, but that still leaves 100 or so plates to chose from !

Here is an example of a better one that I am listing tomorrow, its 4 margins 3 of them are full or huge margins. Its easier for someone to plate this because its dated clearly on the back of the wrapper at St Boswells in 1846. Catalog price not known but I doubt any are worth £4000. This one will be desirable because of the margins. The advantage of buying these on covers is you get the date as well as all the relevant postmarks. This says plate 59

Hi Duncan

To end your doubts, Stanley Gibbons (Page 126, 15th specialised edition) lists plate 177 imperforate 1d red at £4000

Plate 177 is usually found perforated 16 at the more modest Catalogue price of £38, but not all the printings got perforated.

There are other examples which also reach four figures in sterling.......

Wow I must check my stock I am sure I will have imperforate plate 177 somewhere. Would like to get four sterling figures on some of my penny red listings. But I guess only certain examples reach those heights.

As already mentioned by GeoffHa, a nice four margin Penny star would be available for 3-4 pounds. A example such as that posted by duncanvr (correctly plated as plate 59) would be available for 50 to 100 percent more (plate59 has a slight premium anyway) if off paper. On cover it is worth more of course.
The example posted by Changyenho would have very little monetary value in that condition as a decent 4 margin one is only a few pounds anyway. It possibly might have philatelic value if it could be plated to something of philatelic interest.

If anyone wants my plate 59 its now listed start price only $3 here is the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1846-QV-4-H...STRK:MESE:IT