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Cutting Apart USPS Priority Mail Supplies To Use For Packing

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Posted 02/17/2016   5:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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UPS and FedEx both provide free boxes and supplies to their customers (at least the ones with accounts)

They don't for "walk-in" customers, at least not where I live. I got charged for a box at FedEx fairly recently. I don't remember the exact cost, but it was more than just "nominal".
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Posted 02/17/2016   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We may also be forgetting the fact that, in suitably vast quantities, the envelopes & boxes really do cost next to nothing, let alone having a measurable impact on the cost of service.

A quick FOIA request could get us some data on the boxes/envelopes distributed versus boxes/envelopes used, but I doubt that the cost of policing their use would be worth any benefit.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

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Posted 02/17/2016   5:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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We may also be forgetting the fact that, in suitably vast quantities, the envelopes & boxes really do cost next to nothing, let alone having a measurable impact on the cost of service.

The USPS likely buys these things by the warehouse full. Their cost on even the largest box is likely a just a few pennies. Transportation and distribution costs are likely higher than the manufacturing cost. Not that I'm defending the practice of stealing them...
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Posted 02/17/2016   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I`m uncomfortable saying that the boxes and envelopes cost next to nothing. If that were the case, wouldn`t my mailperson be regularly delivering them to me here at home in the hope that I would use them for mailing something.
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Posted 02/17/2016   11:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The USPS is very free with their "shipping supplies" orders. Just look at the link advertising the seemingly unlimited number and sizes of boxes and shipping labels that you can request for free. The USPS will even deliver them to you -- at no cost. Sure, they expect that you'll use them for the service intended, but I don't see any effort on the part of the USPS to limit distribution. In fact, there are many cases shown in the link below where the USPS won't even ship less than quantities of 10 or 25 boxes or envelopes of a given size. In the case of labels, some require that you "order" 100, 200, 600 or even 1,000 (at no charge). If the USPS were worried about their bottom line in making these shipping products available for free, they could easily curb the distribution of these free products ... however, I suspect they chalk it all up to "the cost of doing business" and the vast quantities they produce probably means that the bottom line cost to the USPS is insignificant as compared to the postage rates they can charge to users of their services.

https://store.usps.com/store/browse...viewAll=true
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Posted 02/17/2016   11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add southpaw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
last week my postal clerk handed me three fat rolls of priority sealing tape. I live out in the sticks here in the mountains of NC, I work from home, and the PO is only a couple of miles away. Fed ex and UPS drop off is much further away. There's rarely a line at the PO and everyone is on a first name basis. Works for me!
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Posted 02/18/2016   06:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kevin504 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I buy a lot of mint sheets on ebay, and I don't remember the last time I received one that was not packed inside an unused Priority Mail flat-rate envelope, which was then placed inside a plain manilla envelope and mailed (more cheaply) as a First-Class Flat. Usually the envelopes have been sealed, had the flap cut off, and/or had one side slit open, rendering them unfit for reuse.


You never bought a mint sheet from me.

I use the clear sheet holders and place inside
a large stay-flat envelope (with US stamps as postage)
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Posted 02/18/2016   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mcgeesorg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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You never bought a mint sheet from me.

I use the clear sheet holders and place inside
a large stay-flat envelope (with US stamps as postage)


Well, sounds like I need to buy my sheets from you, then.
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Posted 02/19/2016   10:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If someone doesn't like the fact that a shipper pirates the free shipping materials, isn't there a way to make this concern known in the ebay seller rating system?
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Posted 02/19/2016   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raymodj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My wife got one of those usps sticky notes that she needed to pick up a package at the post office, postage due. Turns out an ebay seller used a priority box wrapped with brown paper to pay the cheaper rate. The brown paper ripped, someone at the post office noticed the box, and my wife had to pay the difference for priority shipping. Of course she went to ebay and was reimbursed by the seller. So the post office does have a policy in place, it's just that in most cases they would never know.

I would say if it really bothers you, report it to the post office and see if they will charge you the priority rate. Then report to ebay to be reimbursed by seller.
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Posted 02/19/2016   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If someone doesn't like the fact that a shipper pirates the free shipping materials, isn't there a way to make this concern known in the ebay seller rating system?

Personally I probably wouldn't bother with it, but if I thought it rose to that level, I'd just leave it in the feedback comments. Again speaking for myself personally, I wouldn't give them negative (or even neutral) feedback, but a note to that effect in the comments would suffice.
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Posted 02/19/2016   12:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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... seller used a priority box wrapped with brown paper to pay the cheaper rate ...


Interesting that the USPS accepted the parcel for mailing in the first place ...

... hasn't there been a ban on wrapping & string since, like, decades ago?
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Posted 02/19/2016   12:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raymodj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Taped brown paper wrapping is still ok. Not sure if anyone would still use string or USPS's stance on that.
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Posted 02/19/2016   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheStampNut to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I reuse the USPS envelopes to ship stamps and don't see an issue doing so. They have already served the purpose and I just re-purpose them. How would someone know the difference between one unused as designed and those having been cut up which I've re-purposed? I receive several of these type USPS, Fedex and UPS mailers weekly and they do make good mailers for stamps.
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Posted 02/19/2016   1:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mcgeesorg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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They have already served the purpose and I just re-purpose them. How would someone know the difference between one unused as designed and those having been cut up which I've re-purposed?


I quite admire that, actually. I'm all for reuse, repurposing, and recycling. But what I described in my original rant was unused envelopes with the flap cut off or a side slit open. One can easily tell that, as there is no address nor postage on the envelopes.
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