Countries With Hard To ID Watermarks

I try to make a list of the countries with hard to id watermarks like as exemplar USPS single line

US
Argentina
British "Wildings"
Brazil
Mexico

Brazil, Mexico and Argentina for starters.

Thanks I'm gone update my first post in alphabetic order

I have the most trouble with Argentina. Its hard even if the watermark is easily visible.

My vote goes for the British "Wildings"...the first 2 watermark types.

Argentina was the first to come to mind

The 1918-1941 definitives of Brazil (Série vovo) was a big challenge for me. As I sold my Brazil collection I know I will never again try to id some of these stamps. Daniel

I definetively agree on the 'Vovo' series being the most challenging.
Twelve different watermarks/varieties - plus unwatermarked!!
Scott's poor images of these watermarks does not necesarrily help the collectors very much, so I had to make my own overview of these 'Vovo -watermarks', for quick reference. Wmk 218 "in echelon" is not included in Scott. I figured this might be useful for other collectors to----? Print it out and use it with your 'watermark' station. Here it is: Let me know if you like a pdf (free off course)


(There is additionally a large 'Coat of arms' Sheet watermark (Wmk 236) used on some high values (1934 - 2$, 5$, 10$) but I did not bother to include it on the overview. These are better identified by paper type anyway).

So - what to be on the look out for???
If you find Scott no 259 (80R green Agriculture - normally unwmk) with wmk.100 - then you have hit gold Same goes for the 'Aviation' 50R in red brown with Wmk. 100. None of these are included in Scott - so "completionists" out there might consider to update their album pages....

Here's my custom page for Vovo definitives, Casa Da Moeda.
The two boxes for the superscarce rarities will likely remain empty - hence I've included the images to remind me what to keep looking for....

Jon
would like a PDF of these watermarks - appreciate your work - Thanks !!

René

Brazil early definitives hands down.

Area66 - if making a list, I presume the early Hungarians should be included? Not even fully covered in Scott. They are maybe even worse than the Vove's of Brazil due to their minute differences/variations.

Rene - Sure, pdf away, check your mailbox

I vote for Brazil as the worst, but some like Mexico have been artificially simplified by the catalogs. For example, there are 4 types of the CORREOS MEXICO watermark from the 1920s-30s (I scanned this figure from an old issue of Mexicana). Scott calls them all the same. But again, they aren't quite different enough to be a big deal for most of us.
Blaamand, could you send me your pdf?
This one is available to anyone on request.

No worries Seigaku, check your mailbox
Would appreciate your Mexican
Jon

So would I, Seigaku
Already e-mailed you

René

If I can get a good look at the watermark (not obscured by postmark, etc), I find Brazil not too difficult, there are just a lot of options for same denomination, same color stamps

Even with a good look I sometimes give up on Argentina 90 vs 288, same with the early crowns on Danish stamps