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Posted 02/25/2016   10:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add alenalenalen to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I could use some help with a few stamps of mine. I have a Scott's classic catalog and google, but they both don't always help.

1. Like with Heligoland #20. Scott notes that the 3pf was reprinted, and by the description given my stamp is definitely the reprint. However, is the reprint stamp #20a or is it a much less valuable unlisted stamp?

2. I have a 20pf Germania Reichspost stamp, #56. It looks like it is printed on the salmon paper of the 30pf, but I can't find any information other than a single reference that all the values exist on the wrong paper. Is it valuable or just interesting?

3. Would I be right in guessing that a 20pf imperforate Bavaria stamp similar to design A5 but with postal horns in the top corners instead of values is a postal note or something similar?

I'll post more questions later.
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Posted 02/25/2016   11:29 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scans, please!
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Posted 02/25/2016   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scans would be helpful.

As for the Heliogoland, I`ll see what I can find. It`s frustrating because I don`t see much listed under the Scott number. Making things worse, it seems that the S. Gibbons number is 12a for Scott's 20 and 12 for Scott's 20a!
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Posted 02/25/2016   1:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like most Heliogoland collectors use Michel numbers. They are 17b for Scott's 20 and 17a for Scott's 20a.

The difference in numbering adds more confusion to the identification because there are a number of reprints of this stamp and Scott doesn't seem to reflect this very well.

Here's a chart that may be helpful (or confusing!):

http://www.fritzwagner.com/helgolan...t_18_19.html
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Edited by KGB - 02/25/2016 1:56 pm
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Posted 02/25/2016   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alenalenalen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll put up photos once I get home. Thanks for the chart, I'll use it once I get home.
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Posted 02/25/2016   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alenalenalen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Heligoland stamp is the 2nd Berlin reprint apparently.

This is the picture of the Bavarian stamp:




And then here is the Germania. The stamp on the right in the first picture is a normal scott #56, and is also the stamp on the left in the second picture.




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Posted 02/26/2016   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
alen, I don't know if this will be important for determining what the story is for the 20pf, but is the stamp an early printing? Early printings have 'REICHSPOST' is taller and thicker letters than later printings.
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Posted 02/26/2016   08:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alenalenalen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not an early printing. The letters are the same size as on my other Germania RP's.
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Posted 02/26/2016   09:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 02/27/2016   02:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jol34 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yo!

The Bavarian stamp depends on watermark.
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Posted 02/27/2016   06:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bavarian piece a postal stationery cutout? The 30PF Germania I wouldn't worry to much about because the condition is stuffed. In my experience Germany collectors are very picky as far as condition goes.
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Posted 02/27/2016   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alenalenalen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's the 20pf Germania (30pf is pictured just to illustrate why I think the 20pf is on the wrong paper), and just want to know where I can find more info about the 20pf printed on 30pf paper. The Bavaria is indeed a sort of postal note from KGB's link, probably worth a quarter.

Also, what do you mean by the condition being stuffed?
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Posted 02/27/2016   09:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stuffed = wrecked.
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Posted 02/27/2016   09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
alen, I think we`re going to have to go to material in German to find out about the 20pf. Do you still have the link to the mention of the Germanias being printed on incorrect paper?
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Posted 02/27/2016   10:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alenalenalen to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.frimindeks.dk/Germany/dr...%2020pf.html

"All values exist with different drawings, colours, watermarks, perforations or types of paper."
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Posted 02/27/2016   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That sounds exceedingly vague. There is no doubt, however, that your stamp is on an odd colored paper, or the paper has taken on its color because of environmental issues.

I have to say, you've gotten me interested in Germanias.
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