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Bids Up To 350 For A Fake Stamp? Have People Lost Their Minds ?

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Posted 04/02/2016   8:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jim6092252 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
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Posted 04/02/2016   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't call it "a dangerous forgery". Colors are not sharp enough, cancel looks like it was applied with a rubber stamp, and you can see that it is not an intaglio printing. So, I would say yes, the bidders (unless they are shills) are not acting rationally.
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Posted 04/02/2016   10:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You two guys don't understand how somebody plans to use that stamp . You use that stamp to impress family and friends and all the people who come over to the house . After a few beers you invite all your relatives to your stamp desk where you keep all your kiloware and packet stamps. Then you whip out your album plus maybe a recent news article showing a invert jenny being sold at auction . Then WA-LA ,you show off your album page !!--now you run with the big dogs .It only cost you less than $400.00 and better than a MBA from Stanford hanging over your desk .
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Posted 04/02/2016   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Freibergs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or it could be as simple as just someone with very deep pockets that wants the stamp and it doesn't bother him or her paying what we all think is a silly amount for a forgery.
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Posted 04/02/2016   10:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You have a guy from Latvia who sell it with 50 other expensive Us for $10 including Scott 1 and 2 and the Zepplin
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Posted 04/02/2016   10:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Crouse27 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it a Peter Winter forgery? I could see the bid getting that high then.
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Posted 04/03/2016   07:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DonSellos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How is a forgery like this produced?

Are items like this one off or would the forger make several in a sheet format?

Don
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Posted 04/03/2016   08:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wait a minute, I was looking with my phone, now on my computer it's way better than the cheap print from Latvia, this stamps even have mold on it. I will give $ 200 for it but not $ 350 and not for the "MBA from Stanford" I will make a page for it showing it's a forgery
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Posted 04/03/2016   08:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a very good forgery and I think the bidders know what they're bidding on.
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Posted 04/03/2016   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are two real INVERTS that are missing ,maybe someone to hide one of the real ones decided to cover it with a cancel . No it is not a Peter Winter copy . I never seen a fake invert that looks that good ,interesting to see what happens to it .
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Posted 04/03/2016   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's very similar to lot #1533 which sold for $350 in 2014.

http://www.rumseyauctions.com/aucti...hapter/58/94
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Posted 04/03/2016   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just imagine who it will look if the ink have not run sideways



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Posted 04/03/2016   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stand corrected ----I never seen or heard that Peter Winter did the inverted jenny . Over the years I seen his stuff and sale flyers which had different stamps but it is a surprise that he did that stamp .
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Posted 04/05/2016   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A used inverted Jenny?
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Posted 04/05/2016   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dudley, I too wonder about these things. I can think of at least two reasons why the faker applied the cheesy, rubber stamp postmark:

1.) to give the item credibility in his eyes...because he didn't know any better, and
2.) to cover the printing ink colors which are a little faded and quite right, and the basic "uncrisp" look of the printing
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Posted 04/13/2016   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YefimR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is interesting: the winner is not particularly interested in US stamps.

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