Pivot Point In The Hobby , This May And June 2016 .

No I'm not, in 1981 it was corporate intra-mail

http://www.inventorofemail.com/hist...of_email.asp

ion 1981 we was building Apple II clones and a little bit later IBM PC clones. The only exchange peoples have in their house with the outside world was with BBS and later CompuServe and others. Internet and Email come popular only after 1995 in houses. Netscape come only around 1995 and Internet Explorer with Windows 95

So in 1981 you have to work in an office and use the email only in this office or betwen office branch.

Unless, of course, you were sending eMail over ARPAnet, which linked disparate institutions.

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

FYI-I did hear an ad for the show on the radio this morning. It was at 6:15 AM, but it was on. Of course I would not have heard it if I didn't have a morning doubleheader, but so be it.

revenuecollector,

I'm going with area66 on this. Email in 1981 was on isolated networks, the largest of course being ARPANET. But that was nothing like the email that exists today. During the 1980's I ran a FIDONET node that had messaging capabilities. I also had a COMPUSERVE account with messaging capability. Compuserve was probably the largest commercial network at the time. As the "Internet" progressed into the widespread interconnected network we think of today, pressure built for COMPUSERVE to interface its messaging service ("email") with Internet email. This did not happen until 1989. Essential services to widespread adoption of email such as POP (and especially POP3) and IMAP did not exist in 1981, but came on the scene in the mid to late 1980's. The Eurdora mail client was not created until 1988, another indication of how email really doesn't begin taking off as we know it today until the mid to late 1980's. And web-based email certainly didn't exist at all in the 1980's, as "http" was not invented until 1990, and the "world wide web" did not emerge until somewhat later.

All that said, it is definitely archaic for anyone doing most any kind of business today to not have email. It is really like someone refusing to use the postal services at the turn of the twentieth century.

Basil

Then how in the heck am I supposed to know what he even has in inventory? I also like to see what I'm buying before I waste the dealer's time or my time.

blcjr,

My response was specifically to this claim:




While email had nowhere near the presence in 1981 it does today, it was far much larger than that.

Based on recent auction prices I'm not sure why people are talking downturn anywhere. If anything I'm continually amazed at the prices being paid. Check out prices from the last major Siegel US stamp auction for example:

http://stampauctionnetwork.com/y/y11228.cfm

Pivot point or a nice step up in demand? We'll see, but I'm not seeing any slacking.

RISNY ----I notice that a week ago ,when I try to bid on the Austin Dulin material which was up for auction. He had one of the best reference collections for Germany with all the work he did for the Germany Philatelic Society. There was five or six collection lots of his stuff, I bid on all and got nothing . Luck there was other stuff later in the auction and paid competitive prices to get those lots .

The Stamp Show is almost over, when will we know the results and whether it will affect the stamp market?

I traveled and viewed some auction lots just prior to the show and I was blown out of the water in the auctions, with collections selling for twice my price. I even considered treating the show week like a Holiday week and not having any ebay auctions but I stuck to my schedule and to my surprise bidding this week was very robust.

What's it all mean?

What pivotal point. The show is over and has proven that philately is alive and kicking and looks like it will remain that way into the future.

Pagoda

I think it is still too early to make any conclusions about the state of the Philatelic market and the over all results from the N.Y. Stamp Show. We have not heard from the dealers or the show committees . A few results from auction houses but more to come .I think its too early to jump here .Lets see the flow of information.

The dealer I worked for had a great show, and dealers there were generally very busy. It seemed like the only dealers who were not busy or even crowded most of the time were either very specialized or had very high end material. Both had their customers, but obviously they were smaller in number. Most of the dozen or so dealers I spoke with were pretty happy. I spent 9 days at the show including 3 days not working, so I got to see things pretty well.

A little humor for all you flatlanders.......... Rev Collector wrote on May 18 that the only thing pivotal about May or June is that it's finally nice weather outside. Not necessarily true. I was in Summit County on May 28 for a meeting (home of the then-closed-for-the-season Keystone, Breckenridge, Copper Mountain ski areas). Driving home about 6:30 PM, I came out of the eastbound portal of the Eisenhower Tunnel and experienced heavy snow for the next 16-18 miles. First few miles were pretty slushy, but that's why one has a 4x4 vehicle. Out here, SUVs are actually fulfilling a function whereas most of those sold down in "the flats" are for looks and show only.

Back to the thread topic, when I get some time, I'll be checking Show auction results out of curiosity. I'll also add that I see absolutely no reason why any stamp dealer is not going to be on line in these times. I peruse dealer ads in Linn's and American Philatelist regularly, plus a few other specialty journals (I don't do ebay for several reasons). A dealer has no online presence? = no business from me.

Summit County is practically the North Pole, of course you got snow. :-) I was referring to the Northeast, where for most people May 1 to June 15 is usually one of the 2 best six week periods of the year (the other is usually mid September to the end of October).

Same parameters apply here in flyover country.