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Liechtenstein SC 100A Authentic/Forgery?

 
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Posted 09/15/2016   1:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add redwoodrandy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I questioned the seller about this stamp just out of curiosity and fun. He states it is a Liechtenstein Sc 100a MNH cat. $13,500. I thought the bottom was reperfed and the stamp regummed and stated that a certification is a must.

After not selling he has now contacted me as to where he could get a certificate in Europe. He is located in Budapest, Hungary.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1930-Liecht...758?hash=ite
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Posted 09/15/2016   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add psyprofret to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What made you think that it was reperfed at the bottom and that it was regummed? I trying to learn how to detect these kinds of problems.
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Posted 09/15/2016   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Waiting for those more knowledge than I to chime in on condition and was just trying to shake up the seller. Perfs to me do not line up top and bottom and too clean cut. Need a reverse scan for regum.
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Edited by redwoodrandy - 09/15/2016 5:21 pm
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Posted 09/15/2016   2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would not buy such a high value stamp on ebay, or from an auction house, without there already being a cert from a reliable entity, or the opportunity to get one. You may want to check the list of affiliate societies on the APS web site to see if there is any entity that specializes in Liechtenstein. Maybe a German, Austrian, or Swiss society.
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Posted 09/15/2016   4:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Buying a 13500USD stamp without a cert is

Anyway, it is a very bad reperf. job. Look at the left side - worst around the middle.
A very bad example of a 30USD stamp made to look like its expensive cousin...

From looking at the bottom right corner, it looks regummed as well.

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Posted 09/15/2016   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CS. Thank you for pointing out that there is a Scott 100. The seller states he is selling for a friend. Either very naive/inexperienced or someone is trying to defraud someone. I await his response.

I am sure one or both of these guys will still want to know where to send their $8,000 stamp for a certificate.
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Edited by redwoodrandy - 09/15/2016 5:42 pm
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Posted 09/17/2016   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vacallo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
He should contact:
Peter Marxer, Postfach 431, FL-9490 Vaduz
wn.marxer (at) supta net
He is the only one expert for Liechtenstein stamps.
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Posted 09/17/2016   6:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you I will pass on the information. Seller did finally realize/admit the stamp was a reperfed Sc 100 and delisted the item. He still lists dubious US stamps incorrectly identified with no certs at extreme prices. He is NULL.
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Wait -a - minute , before you or anybody else starts shipping that stamp to anybody . Why not spend two or four dollars and buy two of the regular stamps and lay them side by side and check the size and check the perforations. I would also check the paper for thickness and type .
Your perforations are vastly different than my copies of the other stamps in that same set.
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The first rule for a expert ,is the most common sense thing that any collector can do . If you have a expensive stamp your not sure of ,is to match it up to some of the low values of the same set . The size and perforations should match ,the gum should also match in color and thickness ,the paper should match and weave of the paper should be the same. A common sense approach will save you money from sending a lot of forgeries to the experts .
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