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The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

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Posted 01/19/2019   4:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nigelc: The cover is much older than 1904;so question mark….
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Posted 01/19/2019   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Hi Nigel,
so where am I going wrong? I saw Derince as a HUGE rail conglomeration, supporting the Port.

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Posted 01/19/2019   4:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good point perf12!

I was getting carried away there.

At least Kartal had a railway station at a more appropriate date:

"Kartal station was originally built by the Ottoman government as part of a railway from Kadikoy to Izmit.

The station was opened on 22 September 1872." (from Wikipedia)

Maybe these were just new postmark types introduced in Asiatic Constantinople including Kartal (station) and other suburban locations such as Derince?
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Edited by nigelc - 01/19/2019 4:24 pm
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Quote:
Hi Nigel,
so where am I going wrong? I saw Derince as a HUGE rail conglomeration, supporting the Port.

I guess it just comes down to the timeline.

It seems the postmark was in use in Derince before the railway got there.

The port and railway subsequently became established.

I expect the ISFILA catalogue will give us much more information.

It will be a good test!

Or maybe a member here already has access to the ISFILA Ottoman postmark catalogue and can help us?
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Posted 01/19/2019   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you perf12 for sharing this puzzle with us!
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Posted 01/19/2019   5:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A time line on the Railways in Turkey; (In Turkish)..Derendje is just east of Izmit on the
first leg of the Hyderpasa line.The first easterly line for that matter.

http://wowturkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=158112

The first foundation of the Great Railway Project (Anatolian Railways), which will connect Istanbul to the Persian Gulf, was laid on 4 June 1871 with an edict and 95 km. Istanbul-izmit section was opened to operate in 1873.
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I am fairly sure it is a railway cancel.Found Something similar in the Dr.Esmer collection
part II. lot 1066
Railway station bilingual postmark „Guebze" (AP No.2, RR) on large part of postal stationery envelope 1 Pia. blue to Dersaadet with arrival mark on reverse, massive shortened at bottom, still fine and scarce
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Suburbs in Asia
GUEBZE (GEGBUZE)
Coles and Walker only Bilingual listed
Type 31 BC2 B=bilingual, C = circular, 2 =rings
Black Circa 1909 Scarcity 20 very rare.

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Posted 01/20/2019   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Updated and completed. 1966 Steiner Page 1.

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Posted 01/20/2019   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Pages Updated and completed:

1967 Steiner Page 6.



1967 Steiner Page 7.



1968 Steiner Page 9.

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Postmarks : BOURDOUR (BURDUR)
Sc# B47 1917 10pa on 20pa surch.
Coles and Walker C3 Type 115 Usage 1908 to 1926



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Posted 01/29/2019   12:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

O.N.E.P.S. Ottoman and Near East Philatelic Society.
January 2019
Topics...........
(Any members keen on Turkish Philately, Please join us )


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Posted 01/29/2019   01:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Index of The Levant over 18 Issues, Lots of juicy reading...........
Page 1 of 5

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Posted 01/31/2019   09:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some new additions.
Cover 21.07.04 Isketche/Thessaloniki (franked with 1901 1pi)




Cover Stamboul, No.3 Stamboul bilingual cancelar/destination unknown(1 piastre franking)




Bigha cancel with Salhura Telegraphe negative seal


Antigoni Island (Burgasadasi)




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