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19th Century Stamps On Habsburg Documents

 
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Posted 10/01/2016   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add numist321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I came across about a dozen 19th century Habsburg documents recently, some of them have stamps on them. Does anyone maybe know if these carry any value? Is there a market for such stamps/documents? I appreciate any help you can give and thank you in advance!





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Posted 10/01/2016   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The answer to your question is yes, there is a market for these. Some of the folks on this forum are drooling right now!

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Posted 10/01/2016   6:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter is right. Those are nice. I think Area66 will stop by.
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Posted 10/01/2016   11:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rdavid to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting stamps. I have these two telegraph stamps with the same gentleman on them. Relevant perhaps? Or not.

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Posted 10/01/2016   11:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's Emperor Karl Josef I , Since the document are in Italian , they was used in Lombardy–Venetia. The cancel is from Zara provincial ( state) court. The Third one is a legal document from what I can read it's to give power to a third party ( proxy ) They sell those documents on ebay ranging from $ 2 to $ 20.
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Edited by area66 - 10/01/2016 11:46 pm
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Posted 10/02/2016   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Lovely stuff, Numist321.

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Posted 10/02/2016   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YeaPolska to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, that 60 Kr is very nice indeed, Used in the Polish city of Krakow in the area known as Galicia during the Austrian occupation. The problem with postmarks such as this is that the Austrian collectors desire them as much as the Polish ones. One stamp, two markets, the price is bound to go up...

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Posted 10/02/2016   1:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add numist321 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the help! The value of 2$ to 20$ per document wouldn't justify me selling them so I'll just hold on to them for now, maybe trade them in for some coins if given the opportunity one day. :)

Since you guys seem to enjoy these I scanned the rest of the stamps on the documents, some are from the early 20th century.

I especially found these two interesting, they're date 1830. and 1840.:





The rest are:











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Posted 10/02/2016   1:30 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Let's just face it: revenues, no matter what the country or era, are just plain cool.

Now I could be just a LITTLE biased on that front...
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Posted 10/02/2016   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What will be a better value is a revenue stamp use on a cover as postal stamp, if my memory is good 80,000 of them was used for postal service legally before they ban them. But after the ban some still escape to control, those will have value with the correct cancel and cover
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Posted 10/02/2016   2:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Area66 / members.

Those last revenues shown, I have a number of these on mutilated stationery.
I have left them alone, as I believe they have "fugitive ink"
Can you confirm?
Thanks.

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Posted 10/17/2016   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rdavid to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some more on Austrian telegraph stamps. First issue was by lithography, since copper plates not made in time. Second issue(1874-76) were engraved. Design of Franz Joseph furnished by a Professor Jacobi, about whom I know nothing more.
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Posted 10/17/2016   02:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Zara" is the talian name of the now Croat city of Zaror. By the late XIX century, it belonged to the Austrian-Hungarian province of Dalmatia, now Croatia Adratic coast.
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Posted 10/17/2016   04:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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