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Sulfurized, Oxidized 3c 1851-57 Stamps. Is There A Safe Method To Refresh The Color?

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Posted 01/23/2017   8:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampcrow to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Has anyone successfully removed oxidation from the 1851 issue?

Any suggestions?
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Posted 01/23/2017   8:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampcrow, would there be a problem with a peroxide bath? If for some reason you do not want to give it a bath, leaving it in the 'fumes' for a while might be enough.

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Posted 01/23/2017   8:46 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
H2O2 works but I don't really agree that the color is guaranteed to go back to "normal", especially with stamps that are heavily sulfurized. Lightly sulfurized stamps will respond quite well. I have used fumes as well and that works well for covers.
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Posted 01/23/2017   11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, thanks. I will give Hydrogen Peroxide a shot.

Looking at what's in the cabinet, we have Hydrogen Peroxide Solution. It lists active ingredient as, Hydrogen Peroxide 3%. Is this acceptable for what I want to do?
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Posted 01/24/2017   02:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Household 3% solution should work if the stamp can be dipped. I use Salon Care 20 volume with a Q tip on unused stamps with gum to minimize the amount of moisture that will come in contact with the face of the stamp. Salon Care 40 volume is also available, but I haven't used it. I assume the Salon Care number is the percentage of hydrogen peroxide, but the label is less than forthcoming.
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Posted 01/24/2017   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheRebel1861 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Silly question but what is sulfurization? I would think a lesser % is a good starting point and work your way up from there. This way you don't fry the stamp.
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Posted 01/24/2017   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I used to use 20% H2O2, and paint it on with a q-tip.

The key is to watch it carefully, and then have a q-tip covered with water ready to paint over to stop the reaction.

With the 20% stuff, it would be a matter of seconds or minutes.
I did that quite a few times with no problems, and each time I was careful to apply water generously and it always appeared to stop the reaction. I'm not aware of any issues with any of the stamps I did this with, over time.
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Posted 01/24/2017   10:41 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 3% stuff is what I and most others ordinarily use. A badly sulfurized stamp is done in two minutes or less.
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Posted 01/24/2017   2:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that the 3% is probably a better/safer solution.
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Posted 01/24/2017   4:47 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sulfurization is the process where sulfur compounds in the atmosphere such as sulfur dioxide react with the lead based pigments of orange/red stamps. The result is a dark-colored lead sulfide? layer covering the pigment.
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Posted 01/24/2017   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As always...Thank you everyone!
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Posted 01/25/2017   08:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheRebel1861 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the explanation sinclair2010
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I use standard household 3% hydrogen peroxide.

When I'm working with sulfuretted/oxidized stamps, I set three bowls in a row. The first bowl has the peroxide, and the other two bowls have lukewarm water. I soak the stamps in the peroxide for one to five minutes, depending on how sulfuretted they are. Then I rinse them in the water in the second bowl for a few minutes, then soak them in the water in the third bowl.

In this illustrated example (77-78L3 three rows), the stamps were much darker than they appear in the top image. The peroxide soak was about four minutes.

I don't think I've ever seen a case where the discoloration was completely removed.



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Posted 10/29/2017   11:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The term is oxidation. Sulphurization/Sulfurization is the treatment of or impregnating of an object with sulfur. It has always been oxidation, oxidation is the descriptive and oxidation is the result of the reaction that occurs. Let us not reinvent the wheel.
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Posted 10/29/2017   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the clarification, rogdcam.
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