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Posted 02/02/2017   04:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add TangStamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Where can I find it in Scott? It's not under "Sharjah" or "UAE".

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Posted 02/02/2017   05:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sharjah 1965 Pan American Games Cairo. Michel catalogue 193A-197A

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311589354969?rmvSB=true
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Edited by redwoodrandy - 02/02/2017 05:58 am
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Sharjah: Michel catalogue 193A-197A



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Edited by redwoodrandy - 02/02/2017 05:57 am
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Posted 02/02/2017   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott lists to 1964.

Michel Gulf States Catalogue
(A marvelous gift from "Postmaster" some years ago)

Passing it forward

Mi#197 1965

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Edited by rod222 - 02/02/2017 06:06 am
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Posted 02/02/2017   12:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TangStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all. Why Scott does not include this set?
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Posted 02/02/2017   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BwanaBob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hate to say it but I feel they are hypocrites when it comes to ignoring the dunes. They'll gladly keep track of wallpaper maker countries that put out stamps of celebrities and any other current thing despite it's irrelevance to their nation.
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Posted 02/02/2017   12:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are also SG 174-178.
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Hi Rod,

How does your Michel catalogue define versions A and B for this set?

SG notes that the stamps were arranged in a sheet with each value in a separate row.

It lists the vertical strip of 5 as SG 174a and in 2005 gave a price for this mint of £3.75.


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Nigel...

Michel usually lists perforated stamps with a suffix of A, and imperforate stamps are with suffix of B. You would find that notation just above the listing that Rod cropped from the catalog.

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Thanks barhata.
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Quote:
Michel usually lists perforated stamps with a suffix of A, and imperforate stamps are with suffix of B.


Thanks barhata /Terry
The info was at the head of the images, I didn't feel it was appropriate to paste the whole page.

Nice to see you around again,
friends, Terry has some amazing collections, a source of inspiration.

PS: This Sharjah set, commemorates 15th december Pan-Arab Games, Cairo.


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I'm no especially defender of Scott, but I think the comment about Scott listing items that are not aligned with a country's national heritage is just kind of a dig, in my opinion, and not helpful to the original poster.

Scott says they base it on whether or not there was actual postal usage of these stamps in a country, how readily available they were in that country for postal purposes, etc. One would need to Google about the Trucial States stamps to see the stories about how they came about, who was promoting them, etc.

Again, I'm not defending their choices to include or not. I'm not affiliated with them in any way. (And I use and am grateful for the Minkus "Naher Osten" catalog in this area.)
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-- Japan, Korea, Trucial States & more on HipStamp: https://www.hipstamp.com/store/the-philatarium

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Or Google "Clive Feigenbaum". I'm not sure if he was involved with the Trucial States stamps -- someone here will know for sure -- but it'll give you a feeling for what kinds of mischief someone can cause in the stamp world to make a buck.

The same matter exists today for so-called "illegal" stamps, from real or fictitious Russian states and similar places. (And sometimes with legitimate postal authorities.) You'll find them for sale on ebay, and with some stamp dealers at shows, but Scott does not catalog them because they're considered philatelic contrivances, and serve no genuine postal use at all.
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-- Japan, Korea, Trucial States & more on HipStamp: https://www.hipstamp.com/store/the-philatarium

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Posted 03/26/2017   9:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Shodan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Would like to note here that Clive Feigenbaum did not have anything to do with the Trucial States stamps. It was Finbar Kenny and Martin Sellinger that were the major players
in that saga. It is at that time when The Format International Security Printers and later The House of Questa became involved in printing many of the issues. This was long before Clive Feigenbaum got involved with Format.

Postal usage has and is being validated and this is why some catalogs are now starting to list many of them. Similar to stamps from the Tuvalu islands and such there is proof of mailings even if just from the philatelic bureaus. Indeed they have been "overproduced" as far as population is concerned but evidence now shows that to be the case with many "legitimate" stamps as well for many countries. Basing on "quantities issued" cannot be used anymore simply because the stamp agencies had much more printed and saved in their warehouses than was documented by the bureaus. In some cases indeed millions more were produced like the 1981 Royal Wedding issues. I have found proof this is so and they were not produced by Format but by The House of Questa so the blaming on Format does not hold water anymore. All the agencies were doing it and are doing it to this day.

Illegal stamps are a much different bear. Nothing like the Trucial States stamps which were authorized by the States they represented. Illegal stamps are "stamps" produced by a stamp dealer(s) that do not have and never have had any postal validity. The producers and sellers of illegal stamps prey upon mainly topical collectors. These people are a scourge on the stamp market and should be rooted out and avoided by all collectors. Some of the sellers of illegal stamps are your most "reputable" dealers. Even though these dealers sell legitimate stamps as well, they should be avoided by all buyers because they are supporting the illegal stamp trade by offering and selling them. Some are indeed probably the producers themselves.

You can get an understanding of just how bad the problem with illegal stamps is by visiting my newest section on them.

http://golowesstamps.com/reference/...l_stamps.htm

Indeed evidence shows Mr. Feigenbaum's involvement in the production of illegal stamps but he basically only started the thing like other problem areas. It is now rampant
and for some countries, like Madagascar for instance, for certain years 100% offered on ebay are illegal stamps. Never ordered, authorized nor used there.

There is a list of user names provided on the site as well. You may be surprised at who some of the sellers are. the section is very new and has a way to go. Based on verifiable U.P.U. circulars the illegal stamps are fully imaged (less any inappropriate ones not suitable for public viewing). The images are now showing up on search engines right next to the sellers images. They are watermarked with "Illegal Stamps" all over them so they are bound to attract attention to those who search for topicals that way. As the section grows, probably more sellers will get their names on the lists.

My advise is to avoid those sellers until they stop offering illegal stamps. They will not stop because even the stamp societies are turning a blind eye to them even though
some of their biggest members are at fault. Should our stamp societies turn a blind eye simply because these "big dealers" support them financially with big ads in their newspapers and such? I guess the "too big to fail" policy holds true for these type of people as well.....
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