New Stamp Error In Germany (Christmas Stamp)

Hello,

I didn't find it in these forum yet, so I let you know if you don't know. Here in Germany there are big stamp news about an error happened to a christmas stamp 2016. the spelling was wrong (for example "Jul" instead of "jul"). So happy searching if you got German christmas letters :).

I don't post this on auctions forum, as I just wanted to write about the stamp, not about the auctions, but here as information the first auction (done, 1000 EUR), and one still active (now 500 EUR).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3270-Weihna...047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.de/itm/3270-Weihnac...232248360587

All this is very new, so here the people and experts still wait, if more will appear and if the stamp will be a) much more than 1000 EUR or b) much less than 1000 EUR in the future...

kind regards,
stamperix

Hi: There is this lot 4kg...Do you think I should ask him if he has this
stamp? Oh!; I forgot to say; the seller is in Germany.....

Very interesting, Stamperix. Has the stamp been re-issued?


Peter

Hello Peter,

yes, sorry forgot to give more details, but I wasn't sure if this all is not already known outside Germany.

The stamp error was discovered and all stamps destroyed and a new version was produced without errors. But (as always in these cases) some stamps had arrived already at the post offices. All this has been known since a few weeks, among collectors, and since some days also in local and stamp media. But there is no general hype about it yet.

summarized:
- 2016 Germany Christmas stamp, red
- self-adhesive stamp
- spelling error "Jul" instead of "jul"
- mostly from Hamburg post offices

for me, sadly, I didn't find one, althouth I had quite a lot from our christmas letters, also still new, but none with spelling error...

my feeling is that the price will fall, as already now after few weeks there have been found 3 stamps, and this although it's not known by all people. I guess there will be perhaps 50 or even 100 stamps around (which will also be rare of course, but no Audrey Hepburn)

stamperix

In addition. Also wrong were the Dutch words Vrolijk Kerstfest.

This should be: Vrolijk kerstfeest.(correct on the later stamp)

So kerstfeest without a Capital letter K and 2 letters e in feest.

They would probably have left the issue at 1 mistake, but 3 mistakes was a bit to much

Kind regards, Johan.

Yes you're right, sorry for not mentioning the Dutch part :).
For me, to check those stamps quickly it's just easier to look after the "J"ul. As I always forget the correct spelling of keerstfeest :).

Here you can find some good informations about the "new" stamp (in German, but with pictures...).

http://briefmarken-suedwest.de/Arch...16/index.htm

It seems that the MICHEL already has seen a stamp and wants to include it into the online catalogue and one day probably into the normal catalogue.

The last ebay selling of this stamp was again 1000 EUR. If you missed it :-), you can now go to the 4th one found here:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Unverausgabt...232248360587

Stamperix. I do not know if something strange happened in the Netherlands, but writing Vrolijk Kerstfeest ( with a capital K ) is perfectly normal. As a matter of fact, the word Kerstmis ( Christmas ) Pasen ( Eastter ) and so on should be written with capital letters. And 'Kerstfeest' would be no exception.


Peter

Hi Peter,

I guess Johan is the Dutch expert here :). But in the article (first link in my last post) the 3 errors are marked. Of course, capital letter K would not be the problem, but in addition the two "ee" are on the wrong position.

the errors were discovered and a new stamp produced last year before christmas. to that time people just wondered why the christmas stamp would be much too late that year. now we know.

Hello Peter. You are right in a certain way.

But first let me explain the Vrolijk Kerstfeest situation.

Kerst(Christmas) is written with a capital K.

All other words including Kerst are without a capital K. These are the grammatical rules in the Netherlands. That is why the German stamp has 2 mistakes in Vrolijk Kerstfest.

The words mentioned by Peter are indeed written with a capital letter.

It is very common for people in the Netherlands to write words like kerstfeest with a capital and nobody objects or even realize this. But the text on the stamp should be correct grammar especially by the high German standards and that is why Vrolijk kerstfeest is the only correct way of writing.

Kind regards,

Johan.

@stamperix, thanks for the links to this "error".

One thing I'm curious about though is how the German Post
arrived at what languages to include on the stamp.

OK I see mainly European but where is Russian, Portuguese,
Hungarian, Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Romanian plus
Baltic countries etc?
All Christian countries who celebrate Christmas .

Yet why is Turkish included. In Turkey there are
are 80 million muslims and only about 100 thousand Christians.
Ok I know that Germany has a large Turkish minority, maybe
approx 5 million but these also are almost 100% muslim.
Therefore why include Turkish on the stamp and not
lets say Russian?

Well, I don't know. My guess is that they took our neighbors and the people that are the larges minority. Here we still say "christmas" not "holidays", but the stamp has no Christian symbol. So it's a question of culture first. Also, e.g. many or most muslim children go to Christian Kindergardens without problems and also go to the services. So also all the Turkish muslims are involved in Christmas somehow. But to summarize I think they took the languages of the largest and nearest minorities.

Thank you for that explanation.

For info:

https://withdrawn-english.jimdo.com...istmas-bulb/

With "kerstfest" instead of "kerstfeest"

A booklet pane was sold now at a auction house for 27.000 EUR :).

http://www.deutsche-briefmarken-zei...27-000-euro/