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Posted 12/23/2022   3:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Eli,
I had not come across, "The consequences of war" by Rubens, prior.
A hugely evocative painting,
No less due to our current world situation.

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Posted 12/23/2022   6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello.
I hadn't seen this before, I wasn't on the forum in 2017.
The flowers in the first message are from two different series, look at the facial values.
I collect Equatorial Guinea, stamps and Cinderellas.
The Cinderellas series are usually 7 stamps and 2 blocks and in the soccer series 9 stamps and 2 or more blocks, apart from the golden blocks which do not exist for all the series.
Regards.




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Posted 12/23/2022   7:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Roberto

Quote:
I collect Equatorial Guinea, stamps and Cinderellas.


Wow! that is one HUGE challenge !
Good Luck.
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Posted 12/23/2022   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do not believe, I am missing 191 cinderellas and 24 stamps.
I left it in 2021 because E.G. did not order the stamps to the Spanish national currency and stamp factory
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Posted 12/23/2022   7:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are the 24 stamps that I am missing.
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Posted 12/25/2022   05:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LaoPhil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, I personally will not call these stamps Cinderella since they are legitimate issues. I think the correct definition of them will be Wallpaper stamps (although it is not an official philatelic definition).

Here is a set from my Monkey stamp collection:
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Posted 12/25/2022   10:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello.
Quite contrary to the millionaire issues of 72-79 with print cancellation, the series made by the FNMT of Spain, like the last one from 2006, is 55,000.
Equatorial Guinea has around a million and a half people and in 2006 the FNMT made 15 stamps and one block, all at 55,000 per issue. 880,000 stamps for a year for 1.5 million people, I don't think it's considered wallpaper. There is no other type of postage than the one made by the FNMT. GE is not the Pitcairn Islands.
Regards,

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Posted 12/26/2022   03:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LaoPhil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Do not believe, I am missing 191 cinderellas and 24 stamps.

Roberto,

I think I was misunderstood, probably because my English. I meant: why do you call these stamps, Cinderella stamps?
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Posted 12/26/2022   11:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Take a good look at your monkeys. The postmark is printer's. Is that a legitimate issue?
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Posted 12/26/2022   4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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GE is not the Pitcairn Islands.

What do you mean by that Roberto?

Opinion:
If the postmark was printed as part of the stamps design = Cinderella
(eg Some Australian issues)
If the postmarks were handstruck over the printed stamps = CTO Cancelled to Order.

"Wallpaper" is a derogatory term, for those whom use it, well then they can also include the British Penny Black.

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Posted 12/26/2022   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Penny Black was wallpaper.
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Posted 12/26/2022   5:24 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It was in a literal sense, in that it wasn't unknown for Victorians to aspire to wallpaper a room with used copies. In the sense of dross issued for no postal purpose and not even sold in the purported country (if such it were, in many cases) of issue, it wasn't.
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Posted 12/26/2022   5:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roberto59 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod222, the few inhabitants of the Pitcairn Islands live on stamps.
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Posted 12/27/2022   04:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LaoPhil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Take a good look at your monkeys. The postmark is printer's. Is that a legitimate issue?

Printed postmark makes the stamp CTO (Cancelled to Order) as Rod mentioned. CTO doesn't mean the stamp is illegitimate.

IMO, Cinderella stamps are (official) labels, look like postage stamps, but are not. Hence, the Equatorial Guinea stamps, like the monkeys, are CTO but not Cinderella.
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Posted 12/27/2022   05:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Printed postmark makes the stamp CTO (Cancelled to Order) ...


?

I agree with Roberto. Contrary to a stamp that is issued and cancelled, a stamp with the cancel printed has not been cancelled as it never was a stamp that could be used. There was nothing to cancel to start with.

It can be argued that most - not all - CTO stamps have never been intended to serve a postal use. At least they could have been used as postage stamp until the cancellation mark was applied, cancelling the stamp even before the release date.

There have been plenty philatelic bureaus that sold legitimate mint stamps and made it possible to order the stamp with a cancellation applied on order, i.e., truly CTO.


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IMO, Cinderella stamps are (official) labels, look like postage stamps, but are not.


Those printed with the cancellation applied look like postage stamps. Since they have always been invalidated by the cancel, they are not.


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Hence, the Equatorial Guinea stamps, like the monkeys, are CTO but not Cinderella.


Since they never were conceived to be used as postage stamps, they are, by your own definition, cinderellas.

There is a good argument to call most CTOs cinderellas, as the 'order' was that of the post office and not the collector, but I do not see how the argument works the other way.
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Edited by NSK - 12/27/2022 05:14 am
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