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Unknown Yugoslavia Shs Overprint ???

 
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Posted 03/07/2017   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add same to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Unknown Yugoslavia SHS overprint

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Posted 03/07/2017   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi same; I believe this is a very crude forgery of the 1918 Hungarian occupation stamps in Croatia.
http://worldstampsproject.org/shs-croatia/
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Posted 03/07/2017   10:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I always thought Magyar was Hungary, not Yugoslavia?


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Posted 03/07/2017   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SHS is for Croatia-Slavonia which later became part of Yugoslavia ,in Scott catalog they are listed under Yugoslavia .
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Posted 03/07/2017   10:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Petert4522:These stamps are under Yugoslavia in the Scott cat.I don't know about the other catalogs.
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Posted 03/07/2017   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add svensson to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Appears to have been over printed using a "magic marker".
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Posted 03/07/2017   2:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bamra1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Firstly this kind of thing is unlikely to be a forgery (although a few contemporary and modern forgeries exist).

Secondly they are unlikely to appear in any of the major catalogues, though they appeared in the Handbook of the Croatian Philatelic Society (usually known as the Prirucnik) vol. 3.

At the end of WW1 there was a period of 18 months before the new state of Kingdom of the Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (SHS) was awarded firm boundaries in the settlement of the Treaty of Trianon. Until then the ownership of a number of places on the border between the SHS and Austria/Hungary was disputed.

In some places e.g. Beltinci, Prekomurge, Mursko Sredisce & Prelog, captured supplies of Hungarian stamps were overprinted SHS. These were generally done without any official authority. In some cases they may have had local postage franking power. More likely they were done for political reasons, making clear the demand from the area for incorporation into SHS, or even more likely, cancelled by favour to milk stamp collectors.

If I had to have a guess at the origin of this one I would say Mursko Sredisce in the north of Croatia - but I offer no guarantees.
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Edited by Bamra1 - 03/07/2017 2:53 pm
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Hi; I think Bamra1's analysis quiet interesting and well founded..
page 15 in this link...
https://www.hungarianphilately.org/...Vol36No2.pdf
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Edited by perf12 - 03/07/2017 3:05 pm
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Hi guys!

As an official expert for stamps and postal history of The State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs (SHS) I can confirm that the stamp featured above is genuine. It's a hand-made overprint SHS for the local issue of Mursko Sredisce (a small city in Medjimurje region in the far north of Croatia). Hand-stamp utilised for overprinting was made of cork, and this is the reason why the overprint looks different on almost every stamp. Since stamps valued only 629,61 Korona were overprinted most of which were lost during following decades, genuine stamps of this local issue are extremely rare. In a mint condition (without any flaws) this 80 filler stamp would be worth at least 300 euros. Here is a sample from my collection.




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Edited by The_collector - 05/03/2017 7:05 pm
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Posted 05/03/2017   7:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great Post. Thank you.
Philately turns up some amazing things.
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