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The first two stamps I beileve are from Ukraine in exile. The first feels like wax paper, the second is on a rice paper and the third I thing is a stamp from Danzig but I'm not sure. It also appears to be a very low quality stamp it terms of image. Are these collectable? what would the value be for each. 
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These - especially the Ukrainian stamps - used to be staples of every schoolgirl/boy collection, so no value, sadly. |
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Everything is collectible, Tread your own path, if you like it, collect it.  See...you have the one I am missing. (Yours does not look genuine, however)  |
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/24/2017 03:17 am |
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The danzig stamp is most probably is okay. The stamps from this series/period can often been seen in this condition. I believe the term is overinked(sorry if I am wrong, my English is far from perfect). So one can find nice crisp printed stamps and more blurry ones. Concerning its value: I am afraid not much. try to collect used Danzig, more difficult. But be aware a lot of cto out there, it takes experience to collect used Danzig. Kind regards, Johan. |
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Thanks Johan.
Stamphack: Are you able to post a larger image for us, of the Danzig issue?
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A picture from my collection. 4 stamps of the series(with cto I know) Compared to the other stamps the 2 mark stamp has no white line on the body of the plane and no white line surrounding Freie Stadt Danzig. It could also indicate a specific problem with this color.  |
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According to forgeries expert Varro Tyler, the 1918 20-shaviv Ukrainian peasant stamp was heavily forged for the packet trade. In "focus on Forgeries" page 297, Mr. Tyler says of the forgeries "The peasant's mustache tapers downward at an angle and its end touches the thick line of shading forming the lower jaw. The white centers of the stylized leaves at the four corners of the central oval are not uniform in size. The one in the lower right hand corner leaf is much larger than the one at lower left." So, both your copies, rod22's, and mine are all genuine. Perhaps another SCF member can show us the forgery of this stamp?
As for the Danzig stamp (either Michel #69 or #115, depending on the watermark) it always seems to be a blurry, murky-looking stamp. That ink color must have given "fits" to the printers. The other values in the set can be sloppy, but this color in particular was a problem (Michel #s 69, 115, and 118, the 20 mk. value). |
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I really like this website so much knowledge here... New scan of Danzig stamp... I will need to find my old bottle of watermark fluid and tray now..  |
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Quote: New scan of Danzig stamp... Wow! That's some bad boy stamp you have there  Saved for my records. I had the webbing wmk issue Quote: So, both your copies, rod22's, and mine are all genuine. Thanks for the info, Bob. |
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/24/2017 9:54 pm |
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PS : Stamphack.
With your Ukraine, you may wish to soak in water for a few minutes, dab dry Place face up on a freezer bag, and a clean page of copy paper on top and place the "sandwich" between the pages of a book. 1-2 days they will look pristine, flat as a Halibut, but you will lose any gum.
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Thanks to BkbndrBob, we can isolate the interpreter (Forgery) Genuine (sheet)  Forgery Apart from the moustache, the hairs on the Ears of Wheat, on the blade of the axe, differ remarkedly. Just noted, as advised by Bob, the "bud" or hole, in the centre of the bottom leaves, vary strikingly.  |
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/24/2017 9:49 pm |
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Thanks rod. As forgeries go, this one looks to be a pretty close approximation of the original.
From "Focus on Forgeries" Varro Tyler further states "Only a single type of forgery exists for this stamp...The producer is unknown..." |
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