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Pillar Of The Community
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Posted 05/05/2017   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first issue imperf R99a that began this thread did not sell. But for those who would like a second chance, it has been relisted. I, too, have written to West Coast Stamp telling them about the added margins. I think the next step is to register a complaint with ebay. The last time I did that the listing person banned me from bidding on their items. No loss!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/27265783627...RK:MEBIDX:IT
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Ron Lesher
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Posted 05/05/2017   10:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not even a good paste-up job.
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Posted 05/05/2017   10:41 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I never got any response to my patiently written message explaining how the item was contrived.

Clearly someone with an Aldrichian moral compass.
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United States
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Posted 05/05/2017   12:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RevHound to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I find it funny that on their website they describe themselves as "Your Trusted Stamp Dealer". They go on to say, "We are a APS member (#224675), and maintain the highest quality of performance and expertise in the industry".

This rhetoric sounds pretty familiar lately. I wonder if this would be considered "alternate facts".
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Posted 05/05/2017   12:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since they are APS members one could register a complaint with APS and let APS ask them to respond. Perhaps I will do so!
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Ron Lesher
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Posted 05/05/2017   1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ron,

I got a dollar that says you won't...

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Rest in Peace
United States
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Posted 05/05/2017   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What's really hysterical (at least to me) is that someone took all that time to attach a new border at the right and bottom, and then couldn't be bothered to use a ruler to draw the new frame lines.

Jim


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Posted 05/05/2017   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampman2002 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While the post began as a denouncement of the fraudulently "enhanced" revenue, and it is in the back of the book category, I'm more interested in the dialogue from the second page about the appropriateness of cutting up multiples. This doesn't apply just to revenues or 19th century stamps, either.

I started collecting, like most collectors, trying to "fill the spaces" of a series of Scott National albums. Somewhere along the way, I started looking at both unused and used stamps. That turned into looking for multiples larger than a block of four, which for most stamps seems pretty common, where the larger multiple isn't as easy to find. I also started looking at preproduction materials, such as proofs, essays and photographic essays. Then came the covers....

I am very uncomfortable with altering ANYTHING I obtain. I thoroughly enjoy this hobby and realize that many of the items I add to my collection are only available on the market because someone else DID NOT ALTER the item.

If you look back at covers from the 1930's, 40's and 50's, you'll see that collectors and dealers tended to use the earlier stamps which were the discount postage of the day. While the material from the 1940's and up is still plentiful, I can remember in the 1970's and 1980's when dealers and collectors thought nothing of using all the postage from the 1920's and 1930's on their mail. Then the prices for unused stamps for those eras started to creep up as the supply of available material started to dwindle.

Who's to say that those blocks of 9, 12 or 16 which seem so common today won't be scarce in 50 to 100 years? I can't say whether they will or not, but it's my choice not to break up a large block just to get the one stamp in the middle from it. I'll leave that for the next collector who may not see the value in keeping the whole thing together for now.

Here's a couple examples for your enjoyment:















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Posted 05/11/2017   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The R99a (really an R96a) has now be removed from ebay. A triumph due to my threat to file a complaint with APS. I spent some time on the phone this morning with Wendy Masorti about documenting no previous responses from an APS member. An examination of this person's listings shows several more of this person's listings that should be removed.
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Ron Lesher
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Posted 05/11/2017   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like their creative use of English in this item: "partial pair."

Lol.

Jim



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Bedrock Of The Community
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Posted 05/11/2017   11:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's actually a "partial single".
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United States
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Posted 05/11/2017   12:22 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a very rare bisected multiple.
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