Please Help Identify China Stamps

Hi Tina,how is your authentication going?

Looks your stamps have "¶«±±ÌùÓÃ" on the stamps,it is mean the stamps was limit to use in Northeast China only.The key is same with the stamp without "¶«±±ÌùÓÃ" as Khj have indicated,and he is very correct.

Here is a link of picture about the original and reprint of China "¼Í"/"ÌØ" stamps,you will see your collection in this link:
http://bbs1.paipai.com/g40016c6i16198s0p0.html

The link show is Chinese language,but do not interfere to see the picture and easy to understand the Chinese character --"Ô­°æ"=original,"ÔÙ°æ"=reprint.

Good luck to you.

Excellent link, Zhang Cheng!

Also, you've got eagle eyes!! Yes, you are correct the 4 Mao stamps and the 5 flag stamps are all regional issues of the Northeast Postal Service, not the central government issues! That also explains why the denominations on those stamps looked "funny" (they did not seem to be the correct denominations for the central issues.

So, Tina, the way to tell the Northeast Postal Service issues is the the 4 extra characters on those 9 stamps. I've circled them below on the large scan you provided.



So the 4 Mao stamps are China (PRC) #1L150-1L153 (see the section in Scott labeled Northeast China after the main China/PRC listings). Same rule applies: if you see the dot in Mao's button, then you have the reprints.

Likewise, the 5 flag stamps are #1L157-1L161 or the reprints. You can apply the same rule regarding the star/background orientation for the larger $5000 flag stamp. For the other 4 smaller flag stamps, you can compare the leaves to these 2 scans (top is original, below is reprint).





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ZhangCheng its not going very well this is all way to confusing for me. I've got all the right stuff to look things up just not sure how to.KHJ im guessing they are all reprints and with the leaves thing whats the difference in them color cause I have a few of those I didnt scan.here are a few more scans of some stamps

Thanks Khj,I wish I can know US stamps like you.

Tina,for the small flag stamps,a unofficial of China announced way,measure the width of red silk ribbon round the mast(the longer part),0.4mm will be original,0.6mm will be reprint,and there is 0.5mm type,then via the leaves.Or <0.5mm will be original,>0.5mm will be reprint.Not sure for everytime,the flag stamps is the hardest one of China stamps to differentiate Original and reprint.

The Gymnastics,the paper of reprint is thicker and whiter than original.(Looks your Gymnastics is reprint.)

Do not worry about to differentiate,keep them well,whatever they are very good stamps of China.


(Edit to the "<" and ">",I have reversed them.)

OK, Tina, in your recently submitted top scan:

I cannot clearly see the last stamp in the 2nd row (the blue stamp). You will need to provide a bigger pic in order for me to assist.

The remaining flag stamps in the top 2 rows and the Mao stamps in the bottom 2 rows all contain those 4 characters, so they are Northeast China (see China/PRC #1L150-1L153, #1L157-1L161, or could be reprints).

On the Mao stamps, again, just look at the button and see if there is that extra dot.

On the flag stamps, I cannot add onto what Zhang Cheng mentioned. I usually go by the color of the leaves, but that can be difficult if you don't have a sample original/reprint for comparison.

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In the second scan, those will be the exercise stamps of China/PRC #141-150. These are really hard to distinguish between originals/reprints without actually physically examining the stamps; but I believe Zhang Cheng is correct -- they are likely the reprints as the paper appears quite white and the colors quite bright.

Don't get discouraged on all these issues, Tina. They are tough for many of us, and I've been collecting PRC for over 25 years.

I took the exercise stamps outside and the are on off white with very thin paper I have lots of these is anybody interested in them?

Yes, Tina, I'd be interested in any/all of them, whether the exercise stamps or the flag/Mao stamps. I will email you a basic offer assuming they are all reprints (reprints are quite plentiful), and then forward a decent bonus to you later on if I find any original sets, as the originals have much greater value.

k

ok I have 24 of the 4 block ones different colors

I also have some Early China stamps that I am uncertain about - Reprints or Not Reprints
That is the question.
Mao button with dot?? I can't tell.

Any help would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks, Brian

The flag and Mao issues are early PRC stamps used in northeast area, where the currency was different from other parts. The important thing is to identify if they are original or official reprints. The values of the original are more than 10 times higher.

Tina, do you have an enlarged scan? Focus on Mao 's button and flags ribbon area. I am able to help you determine they are originals or not. Mao's button is a very reliable characteristic to use but the flags are more difficult to identify.

Brian, your stamps are the Northeast China regional issues (4 additional characters), not the central government issues. Even after clicking on the pics, they are of insufficient resolution to identify the necessary details. Please post high-resolution pics of no more than 2 stamps at a time (to preserve the resolution).

In the 1st picture, they "appear" to be reprints -- need higher resolution pic.

In the 2nd picture:

rows 1 & 2 -- originals/reprints cannot be determined from scans, need filtered UV lamp

row 3 -- need higher res scan

row 4 -- "appears" to be reprint, need higher res scan

TangStamps, Tina's post is from over 7 years ago. She hasn't been active here since 2010.

khj, oops, thanks for the note.

No problem TangStamps, always good to see you posting to help. Keep it up!