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1934 National Parks Series And 1935 Farley Reprints

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Posted 07/19/2019   7:17 pm  Show Profile Check clivel's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add clivel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have just uploaded a lovely 123 page "Farley's Follies" PDF album created by Bob Bankhead to my web site.

It can be downloaded from http://www.thestampweb.com/albums.html Scroll down to near the bottom of the page where it can be found in the "Topical, Thematic and Omnibus issues" section - it is about time I think that I reorganised the site to create a separate US section.

Needless to say, the album is free, and can be downloaded as a PDF file or easily modified AlbumEasy text file for anyone who would like to customise it.
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Posted 07/20/2019   06:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I saved myself a lot of time and purchased MYSTIC's "Farley's Follies" specialized pages. It cost $12.00 for 100 pages. Very happy with them.

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Posted 07/21/2019   12:26 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps it passed under the accepted practice if the times, but even if Farley wasn't a collector, I can't believe he was naive enough to not realize they had a value higher than what he paid for them.
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Posted 07/21/2019   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampman2002 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After all the research I've done on this, it is almost certain Farley could not wrap his mind around how these signed sheets could be worth anything more than he paid.

Some people just don't understand something which seems so obvious to us, as collectors.

Think about family members who have absolutely no interest in your collections. Think about the spouse who looks at you like you've lost your mind when you want to spend $100 on a stamp you know has a catalog value of $800.

Farley was driven to please others. He thought very highly of himself and his abilities, and he had a very successful life across both political and business careers. When it came to stamps, he just didn't get it.
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Posted 07/21/2019   9:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bud to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just spent over two hours reading through this wonderful thread,and I plan to read it again. Thanks so much, Stampman2002. Genuine scholarship, interesting and engaging presentation, and fascinating subject matter. What more could one ask for? Quick question: Did any of your readers find a Scott 742 PB #21332?
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Posted 07/21/2019   9:29 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Explain to me how he could think they had no value (above face) when this type of thing was given out as political favors?
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Posted 02/26/2021   2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aucguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One of my favorite series of U.S. stamps to collect. Have a 3 ring binder full of stamps, covers and surrounding material. Just basically got this material. I picked up all the cross gutter blocks of the Farley's. Have decided not to collect the full 20 panes of sheets.




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Posted 04/20/2021   12:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampman2002 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As the author of this thread, I need to edit this thread to correct information which further research has shown to be inaccurate. Until such time as this can be added directly to the thread, where it belongs, the following note is provided to the readers:

NOTE: In the section of the thread dealing with Scott 742, the 3c Mount Rainier National Park issue, the information about Plate 21332 is incorrect. As discussed in the thread, the original information was obtained from a very reputable dealer and the unnamed collector's exhibit of the 3c Mount Rainier National Parks issue. The exhibitor was incorrect. Discussions with the editors of the UPSS Durland Plate Number Catalog show that there was no limited printing and no documentation is known which would support the scenario provided in the thread. Plate number 21332 is available, albeit it appears to be the least available plate number for this issue.
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Posted 05/24/2021   01:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

***Please do not cross-post***

See https://goscf.com/t/77469


P.S. I love the series but thanks to you, I chose not to try to collect it in depth, 'cause you got it all.
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Edited by Parcelpostguy - 05/24/2021 01:36 am
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Posted 05/25/2021   06:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampCat7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hope this isn't off topic but, why aren't the full farley press sheets listed in the same detail as the modern press sheets? I believe since the new spate of Press Sheets are now listed in Scott, there should be more detail pricing of the full press sheets, not just blocks, cross,center etc.
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Posted 08/11/2021   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patg23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just found and read the whole thread. Thanks to stampman2002 for the taking the time and effort to post.
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Posted 04/23/2023   5:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GregAlex to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was just rereading this thread, which I lost sight of for a number of years. The argument about whether or not Farley was legally out of line in obtaining proofs from the BEP is fascinating.

Back in 2018 Stampman2002 wrote:

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The use of proof presentation albums, such as the Roosevelt proofs, were sanctioned. These were presented to foreign dignitaries, senators and congressmen for one reason or another. There was nothing untoward about these. Similarly, there were some presentation pieces made for the Panama-Pacific set in 1913.

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I would hesitate to credit this as the reasoning behind why Farley felt comfortable doing as he did, though. If he had just taken the "proof" material he would have violated the law. He paid for it instead.


Let me just provide a little additional evidence that distributing proof material was often sanctioned by the Bureau itself. I have spent many years going through the Smithsonian's digitized collection of BEP Certified Proofs. While these don't encompass postage stamps (those proofs went to the National Postal Museum), they often contain interesting "Easter eggs". I've found numerous notations of proofs that were removed for use in books, most likely presentation albums.

Here's one example, which reads "This subject was cut out for to complete Miss Hayes scrap book. July 27, 1876. J.H."


https://americanhistory.si.edu/coll...nmah_1598385

Miss Hayes would be Fanny Hayes, the nine-year-old daughter of then-governor of Ohio and presidential candidate Rutherford Hayes. If this practice had been illegal, it's unlikely someone would have left such a blatant notation, including their initials.

If proofs of currency and other Treasury securities were treated this lightly, proofs of postage certainly would have been, as well. Even in the 1930s, BEP officials would not have had a second thought about this time-honored practice. I find it remarkable that Farley even chose to pay the face value for what were, in fact, proof sheets.
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Posted 05/06/2023   9:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Part of my collection have this 'O' type cancel. For instance, the lower right 9˘ block. What type of cancel is this??


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Posted 05/06/2023   9:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the oval cancel was mosty used on parcels and larger envelopes


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