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Speaking Of Jumbos ... How's This!

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Posted 07/01/2017   6:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Mizar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently acquired a parcel of stamps and found a Scott 158 jumbo among them. It appears to be lightly cancelled. No gum. Note the arrow in the upper left hand corner, as well as a small portion of the adjoining stamp on its right. I can't even begin to grade this stamp. I have no experience with jumbos. Any ideas? Thanks!

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Posted 07/01/2017   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It seems cocked to me.
No denying the huge margins, but it's not centered north and south very well. I'm not an experienced either. Curious to know what members will think of this stamp.
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Posted 07/01/2017   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is probably pretty close to the maximum size; the parts of the next stamp showing at right is a nice plus. There is also a rarity/scarcity factor since jokers were always trimming stamps like these and trying to pass them off as imperfs. Money-wise, the natural straight edge at left is a minus, as are the tiny faults. I like it, regardless; nice find!
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Posted 07/01/2017   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mizar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, for the input, hy! As I mentioned, I have no experience with jumbos and need the community's opinions! I really appreciate it!
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Posted 07/01/2017   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Alan Campbell's piece on centering in the November 2007 Chronicle might explain what happened to the rest of that pane to produce that jumbo.

http://chronicle.uspcs.org/PDF/Chro...16/12964.pdf
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Posted 07/01/2017   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mizar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Phil, I briefly looked over that article. I'll look at it in greater detail in a bit. Based on what I read I can understand how one or two margins can be made "jumbo," but my stamp has four, that is, three "major" jumbo margins and one smaller jumbo margin. It's a mystery.
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Posted 07/01/2017   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, littleriverphil, that is one great article!
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Posted 07/02/2017   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mizar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, the cancellation, although light, is a purple star cancel. Does anyone have any idea what an odd stamp like this might be valued at, because I have no idea?
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Posted 07/02/2017   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I used to think Jumbo was a level above Superb. That is, when you have a suberb centered stamp with huge margins. But I've come to realize that jumbo has more generally been used whenever there are 4 large margins. I have a stamp graded 80J. Is it a jumbo? Yes. Is it Superb? no. Is it valueable? It would be a lot more valuable without what appears to be a tiny tear on the right and some sort of damage on the left. As a natural straight edge it isn't as much a detraction as many straight edges but still a negative for price. If it wasn't a jumbo I'd say 25% of cat or so. With the jumbo maybe 40%? Just a guess.
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Posted 07/02/2017   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mizar,
The star cancel is faint but appears to be one of the 'star in circle' types. None of these are rare and Cole rates them as a 'I' - 'Markings relatively common and/or not much in demand'.
Don
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Posted 07/02/2017   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Its a great stamp, even with the bottom margin being less but still quite generous. Straight edge stamps have traditionally been underappreciated, but they can be great position pieces. Very nice find!
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Posted 07/02/2017   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mizar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Doug. Good or bad, with all of its inherent faults and deviations away from perfection, it's still the largest 'jumbo' that I've ever come across and that, in and of itself, I believe makes it nice to have. --- James
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Posted 07/02/2017   3:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jconey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, congratulations, a very nice find indeed!
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Posted 07/02/2017   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mizar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jconey, stamp collecting keeps getting better and better. I don't know how old you are, but when I was young, very young, I get a box of Crackerjacks and open the bottom of the box first! Why? Because that's where they put the prize ... on the bottom of the box. You never knew exactly what the prize was going to be, but you knew it was there waiting for you. That's what stamp collecting is like. There's always a prize waiting somewhere! All the best to you! --- James
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Posted 07/03/2017   01:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi James, that is what I like too, the treasure hunt in collecting!!
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Posted 07/03/2017   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mizar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Among most serious collectors, "Dutch," the sense of "treasure hunting" has universal appeal. The hunt or 'riding to the hounds, as it were, is where the enjoyment is. Isn't it? It's the nature of the hunt that augments our knowledge about the fox. That said, I believe that actually catching the 'fox' is something else entirely ... a different sort of fun. Of course, once the hunt has ended, what's left to do? Why, it's on to another hunt, right!
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