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Posted 07/18/2017   08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add comrad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,

I am new to forum and also a quite fresh(restarted) to collecting stamps. First I love images on stamps, a lot of detailed in small paper. I collected stamps as a little boy of age about 6, but now I see all different. Now after 20 years I bought some lots and now I am interesting in old classic ones.
I want to show the beauty of image on stamps and I decide to do my best photos, and share with all. It took a lot of time to do a good job. Here is my collection of Brazilian Classic:

https://wallpaper.si/brazil-stamps/

The one below is quite value, but it was previously "repaired". How much in % is lost in value, I does not have feeling yet for grading such a stamps.



Thanks everyone for information. I will post new stamps if you like.
P.S. Sorry for my english
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Posted 07/18/2017   12:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome Comrad, Please show more of your collection ,everybody here enjoys seeing what others collect. Don't worry too much about value at this time ,it is better to enjoy and learn .
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Posted 07/18/2017   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
in general a repaired stamp is worth less than the stamp that was repaired.

but what does it matter, you mention you enjoy the design of the stamp.
if you're not concerned with being able to sell your stamps when you loose interest or leave your family with a heritage. then it doesn't matter as long as they bring you joy.

a hobby will always cost money.

i fully agree with you when it comes to what fascinate me, it's the design and intricity of the design.

that is why I collect unused stamps as well as cancelled.

the danish bicoloured I think are amongst the more intricately engraved stamps of the era.

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Posted 07/19/2017   04:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To be blunt, the stamp has lost most of its value from what it could be without faults. It's good looking, which is half the battle in collecting Brazil in this era. It has a nice BAHIA cancel, which is the state and not some city, no?

If you have others, we'd like to see them, particularly if not yet on the wallpaper site.
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Posted 07/19/2017   06:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add comrad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I am quite new to Stamps. Can you tell me more about BAHIA cancelation and other cancelations of Brazilian stamps?
On Wallpaper.si is most of my Brazilian Collection, I have some duplicates and some newer ones.
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Posted 07/19/2017   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add comrad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Today I prepared Bolivian stamp collection. I love first issues of Condor.

Here you can see most of my Bolivian stamps;

https://wallpaper.si/bolivia-stamps/

But I am very interesting of types of cancelling stamps.
Here is beautiful one with pencil I think so:



But one I have her has only one pencil curve:



Can anyone tell me or where I can read more about pencil cancellation?
Thank you
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Posted 07/19/2017   10:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi comrad, In your Brazil stamp :it looks like a paper fold? no pic of the back so hard to tell..link to some Brazil info...
http://www.brazilphilatelic.org/attractives.pdf
and also this; The Luis Alemay Indarte Collection; I think you will find all the postmarks on the Bulls Eyes in this massive collection.
https://d2fk4gnszbwlgj.cloudfront.net/PDF/181.pdf
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Posted 07/19/2017   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Can you tell me more about BAHIA cancelation and other cancelations of Brazilian stamps?

I have no more information on that cancel, other than to note that there are other cities that used that style. In that time period, there are boxed style cancels, and ones with just the town name by itself. Many stamps were just cancelled with pen marks. Those are disliked by collectors and so their price is reduced.

Postmarks changed over time so by the time of the engraved portrait issues, called Banknotes, there were a variety of cancels made from wood, rubber corks, etc. Some were just blobs or rounds, but the style could be fancier. Per ones in your collection and:
https://www.stampcommunity.org/topi...IC_ID=17173&
The town cancel would normally be struck on just the envelope (to be clear and readable) and the stamp was cancelled by a heavy marking (to prevent re-use). The other United States (USA) did this in the same era, too. In the first scan, please note that the 60r stamp at top is fake; so is the 430r at the bottom; therefore the cancels are fake, also.
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Posted 07/20/2017   01:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add comrad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both, for knowledge answer.

Anyone know something about Bolivian pencil cancellation?
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Posted 07/20/2017   04:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi; For manuscript cancels on Condor stamps they are for fiscal or revenue purposes as in most other countries.Huge study in this link on Condor 5c.....have fun...
http://www.japhila.cz/hof/0519/index0519a.htm
and:
http://www.japhila.cz/hof/0068/index0068_32.htm
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