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Greek Stamps - Are They Real?

 
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Posted 08/15/2017   09:30 am  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add wheelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Given what I paid for this collection and my unfamiliarity with Greek stamps I would like some input as to the authenticity of the attached stamps. Any input greatly appreciated.
Perf12 these are some of the items from our previous discussion.

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Posted 08/15/2017   09:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wheelman, why did you not post these ith your previous discussion, or at least give us a link to it? It ould certainly help a lot.

Peter

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Posted 08/15/2017   10:30 am  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheelman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter,
A completely different question. Perf12 asked if I would post some pictures from an ebay acquisition so I was advising if he saw this that these are from the same purchase. The previous post was regarding a cover and therefore I did not think it appropriate to post individual stamps in a cover related post. Sorry if I screwed up.
Paul
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Posted 08/15/2017   3:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi; They all look authentic to me.The first row looks like the consecutive athens printings.The bottom right & the 1st stamp looks like the cream colored paper printings without control figures..The bottom green maybe a meshed paper printing?(Need a close up pic of the back & front..
if you could post a pic of the 2 stamps individualy(in the bottom 10 lep orange & 20 lep blue)second & third from the left? Need a close up clear pic too check out these stamps.
The Hermes head stamps spanned over 20 years.The same plates were used in different conditions and places.(Paris ,Athens) Paper & color differences are very frequent.
Short margins cutting into the frame on these stamps means the prices go way down. -70%
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Posted 08/15/2017   8:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rdavid to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would think it must be extremely difficult to tell early Greek forgeries from real stamps given only a scan. I have difficulty identifying these stamps in terms of Scott numbers!
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Posted 08/26/2017   3:28 pm  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheelman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the replies on this.
Perf12. Scans follow. I noticed a couple things on the 10 lep - It appears to have a hinge remnant on the front and the 10 is reversed on the back. Thanks again for your feedback on this.





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Posted 08/26/2017   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi; Could you take a good clear pic of the 10 lepta orange?..It is very interesting.The maximum in pixels you can post.
For the 5 lepta green ;seems to be the 1871/2 printing.The photo of the back is not good enough to see if it's a meshed paper printing.The color
of coarse counts a lot,and fit's in to the 1871 green colors.But the meshed paper printing also had this green shade(sage green).
The orange stamp needs a clear big photo.
The 20 lepta looks like a meshed paper printing(1871-76),again you must confirm.
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Posted 08/27/2017   10:07 am  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheelman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perf12 - First thank you for all your assistance on this. This picture is taken in 22MPX macro RAW mode. The field of focus was very narrow so the right side is a little out of focus. It was also taken using a incandescent light so it has a yellow cast. Will need to use previous pics for color. I have not yet soaked the hinge remnant off the front thus the shiny part top center.Hopefully this provides the detail you are requesting.
Thanks again - Paul
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Posted 08/27/2017   2:45 pm  Show Profile Check wheelman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheelman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Forgot to re-post the back.

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Posted 08/27/2017   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Judging from the printing of the control numbers I would put this stamp
in the 1867/69 cleaned plates issue.Now the color difference between your 2 pics (orange-red in the small pic ,orange in the close up makes things hard for me).If it's more redish that makes it more interesting.I don't know the plate number of the inverted 10 in the Cleaned plates printing.I don't have the specialized iliterature on control number plating.Maybe someone in the forum has this.
If on the other hand the stamp has releif on the white parts of the face and neck we can easily place it in the 1862/67 Consecutive Athens printing.Even in the close up can't tell if there is relief.You will have to check this out .It is quiet apparent if you look at it from an angle.

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