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Is This #39 Very Fine? Worth Grading?

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Posted 08/18/2017   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add TangStamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I want to get a cert to make sure it's OG and these is no reperf. Is it worth grading? What grading do you think it can get?




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Posted 08/18/2017   12:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice stamp!

If you think it is sound and not reperforated, and it graded out at 85, then it's worth a few thousand... to sell it for the few thousand, then you will need certificate to likely sell it as there are few buyers that would buy this stamp in this price range without a clean cert.
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Posted 08/18/2017   1:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi TangStamps, not saying its not original gum, but the majority of stamp collectors from the 19th Century, did not like gum, as the gum caused problems.

If you want to check the centering, invert it.

I do not like number grading, to me it would come in as very fine (VF) or extra fine (EF).

Good luck getting a certificate!

Good luck in stamp collecting.

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Posted 08/18/2017   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Below is grade 90 OG, light hinge in upcoming Siegel sale (Clipper). Stamps are stunning in this collection!

The one below will sell likely in 3000-4000$ range(?? if there is presently a buyer out there for it)

I think its better centered than the one you show above, which I think centers out around grade 85.

I worry there is reperforation of your stamp ?right side. Perhaps a repair as there is a circular disc that is seen on back scan to left of Washington head.


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Posted 08/18/2017   1:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just ran some tests on your stamp, I'm pretty sure the right and/or left is reperforated
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Posted 08/18/2017   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TangStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@rgstamp

I am also worried about the reperforation. Could you please tell me how you ran the test on the stamp? Did you try to use the left perf to match up with the right perf to make sure they are aligned (at least the distance between the perfs)?

If it turns out to be reperforated, how much is it worth?

Thanks,
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Posted 08/18/2017   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. Exactly ... I used 2 images of your stamp exact same size and tried to line up perfs, no success.

I ran same test on the certified 90 above. Lines up perfect.

10 percent catalog for reperforated estimate... 300$-400$. Still very nice stamp missing from many US collections!
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Posted 08/18/2017   3:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TangStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@rgstamp

Thank you very much. If you don't mind, could you please share your testing image of the perf matching? I counted the perfs one by one, they can match though. I assume that we can move it up-and-down to do the match-up, correct?
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Posted 08/18/2017   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not good enough to figure out how to capture image, save it and post. I simply do it by dragging copy of your image onto desktop, saving it there. Then I open the file. Then I drag image again from SCF and place it next to opened one.

I'm picking my kid up from camp. Perhaps one of other members can post this name of perfs lined up to each other. Don is a expert at this and has software that does it. I learned that on this site
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Posted 08/18/2017   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Grading can be quite subjective. Here is a scan of my first #39. I had it certed. It did not come back as a re-perf. Yet the cert grade was only 45 owing in part to a thin that I can not see when I hold it up to a light. I do not know the formula behind the grading.

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Posted 08/18/2017   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TangStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Douglas Andrew Willinger

I thought yours could get a 75-80. So even it was graded at 45, they still charge 5% of the SCV, which is about $3000 x 0.05 = $150?
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Posted 08/18/2017   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To my knowledge, there is no 45 grade at PSE, PSAG, or the PF.
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Posted 08/18/2017   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My stamp here is no gum, with a back stamp from a European stamp dealer.

"Twenty-five points are deducted straightaway for minor defects and 50 points for significant defects."

"MF - Minor fault (Tiny thin ~1 mm, toning, tiny tears ~.5 mm, tiny natural inclusions, short perf, etc)"

45 plus 25= 70
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Edited by Douglas Andrew Willinger - 08/18/2017 6:04 pm
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Posted 08/18/2017   8:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stuart MacNeil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've never understood the American grading system. When I look at this stamp I give a grade of Fine. What's the difference between a 50,60, or 70? Don't know, don't care. This is a fine stamp, I would like to own it. Pay good money for one!
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Posted 08/18/2017   9:06 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
TangStamps, I assume you want good answers to your question, so why not give us a decent image to evaluate?
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