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Need Help With Three Cent Plate 24l2e

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Posted 08/21/2017   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tgswanner to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was looking at the top frame line on 8R3, but the guide dot seems higher on stampcrow's...but, here we go again, I assume heavy inking versus lack of ink plays a factor. Seems like there are LOTS of factors. Also, concerning the 'lack of ink' on a frame line, look at the top frame line of 7R3 on the chase plates...lack of ink or constantly missing?
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Posted 08/21/2017   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I propose that Gary have a PLATING 101 class.


There are better platers than me in SCF.
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Posted 08/21/2017   10:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Greg, you're assumption is correct. Inking variations can significantly change the size and shape of a guide dot.
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Posted 08/21/2017   11:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tgswanner to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I have learned a little something tonight. I checked out the 8R3 image on stamp smarter and it shows a medium inking as compared to the Chase plate which chows a heavy inking and stampcrow's 8R3 which shows less inking resulting in a smaller guide dot than the other 2. Looks like experience is a key factor in plating. Now I have to wonder how much subjectivity is involved in regards to the one doing the plating.
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Posted 08/22/2017   6:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
tgswanner, the top frame line above the area between the S of U.S. and P of postage, being heavier and slanted, is a key identifier. I should have seen that.
I still struggle. Luckily there are experienced collectors that are very gracious with their expertise.
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Posted 08/23/2017   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I should be able to get a partial imprimt plated correctly..., even with what looks like a 'worn' impression.

It's type I, not Orange Brown, so it's Scott #11.

Measure the distance from top of an upper case letter of the imprint, to the adjacent frame line. This one is a touch over 1mm. Dr. Chase reports plate 6L and plate 8L fall within these measurements.

I did a Siegel Auction power search for partial imprints. Found that the imprint I have is aligned with position 41L.

Being that plate 8 is fairly rare, I concentrated on finding images of 416L to.
I think I can holler BINGO.

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Posted 08/23/2017   8:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BINGO! 41L6, it is. Nice imprint!
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Posted 08/23/2017   9:34 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Being that plate 8 is fairly rare, I concentrated on finding images of 416L to. I think I can holler BINGO.


The other way would be to use the frame line characteristics to tell which plate it was from. The lightly recut frame lines say that it can not be from Plate 8.
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Posted 08/23/2017   9:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have it's neighbor. 60R6
The imprint has all the info needed to plate this right pane plate 6 stamp.
A slightly nicer stamp then the one above but with less imprint.
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Posted 08/23/2017   9:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tgswanner to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wow. those are nice. I need to go hangout with stampcrow! I enjoy seeing these images and hearing all of your your thoughts associated with them.
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Posted 08/24/2017   6:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I still get things wrong fairly often. But I figure there might be others at this beginner/novice level, that might learn a few things from my trials.
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Posted 08/24/2017   8:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nice imprint stamp, stampcrow! Nearly all imprint copies of this issue on the market today are in poor condition or badly cut into, or both.
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Posted 08/26/2017   2:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Along the same line, (pun intended) I wish this stamp had all it's margins. It needs a bath also.

With such a large margin needed to capture the center line, while not rare, it's likely not common.

71R4 by my reckoning.
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