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Posted 08/28/2017   10:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add HTx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello All

Below are two sets of early stamps and one set of miscellaneous items.
Many of those in group #1 are rough. But are any of these worth further evaluation.
Same for group #2; such as stamps one and three in top row (lake rose and orange ).
In general I am having difficulty matching the color identification with the correct year.
If you are able to help with Scott numbers that would be appreciated.
Group #3 I just can't find in my book.

All comments are welcome,
thanks
HTx




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Posted 08/28/2017   10:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mount-this to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Group 3 looks like a couple revenue stamps, a precanceled 164, and a anti-tuberculosis stamp.
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Posted 08/29/2017   01:34 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the first picture, the first four stamps are from the Ceres issue (Yvert 60A-C), which appeared from June 1871. There are three types of this issue, distinguished by minor differences in the north-east corner motif. The next three are Louis Napoleon, issued from August 1862 (Yvert 22). The last is from July 1854 (Yvert 14A..

Second picture: 80c, December 1854, Yvert 17A; 30c, January 1867, Yvert 30; 40c, October 1870, Yvert 38; then three 40c, December 1853, Yvert 16.

There are various shades of most of these stamps.

Further evaluation? For your interest, yes. For financial interest, no.
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Posted 08/29/2017   07:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Htx - our friend GeoffHa has already plotted the landscape pretty well. If also considering the postmarks, a few things to observe:
The 40 c Ceres (Yvert 38) has quite a good 'Anchor' strike, used for letters carried at sea. The anchor cancellation gives this stamp a 6x premium, increasing from 6 to 36 Euro. http://marcophilie.org/x/x-cot2-i.html . Nice centring to, but a realistic retail value around 3E due to the missing corner perf.

A few interesting ambulant postmarks as well ('DS2') however the stamps are in poor condition, unfortunately. Absolutely collectible - but minimal value.

You have a few beautiful SOTN numeral postmarks in the first group - '2818' and '3112' - unfortunately these numbers are quite common. The '3812' is more rare - it was cancelled in Saint-Rémy-de-Provence, only 6000 souls were living there at that time.

May I suggest you collect the different numeral postmarks you are able to identify? Use this site for finding the relevant town for each numeral http://marcophilie.org/x/x-prov-i.html
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Posted 08/29/2017   1:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HTx to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Frch reply
Thanks Mount-this, GeoffHa, and Blaamand for your reply's. As they were very informative and helpful. For example, I looked at the Anchor cancel but I only saw the anchor as a 'black mark'. I did not recognize it as an actual anchor until it was mentioned as such.

I do have another anti-tuberculosis dated 1922 but I think it is American.
Plus many more pre-cancels on various stamps ( now I know what the overprint is).
And with dates provided, I think I can now catalog a majority of the stamps correctly.

I learn much on this forum, thank-you all.
HTx

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Posted 08/29/2017   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mount-this to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The French anti-tuberculosis stamps came with a different design each year. Here's a selection with some revenues from a Scott Junior I picked up a few years back.



Here's another anchor cancel on an 1868 80c.


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