Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Gonna Call This One As A Fake

Previous Page | Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 41 / Views: 6,053Next Topic
Page: of 3
Rest in Peace
United States
1738 Posts
Posted 09/08/2017   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
How are you able to do it?


May want to ask the individual that you derided in your comment for his technique(s).

Jim


Quote:
How are you able to do it?


If you mean "you" in the personal sense rather than the royal sense, then, to answer your question, I look at the color of the ink of the stamp, the cancellation date, the paper, the margins of known genuine imperforate stamps, the fact that these three examples all have notches in their tiny margins and don't have any notches in any other margins (which can't possibly just be a coincidence), the asking price of the stamp by the seller, the comparative catalog value between what a fully perforated stamp is listed at versus what an imperforate stamp is listed at, comparison to stamps in my collection, some basic common sense, some logical deduction based on the evidence at hand, and a variety of other methods that I would prefer not to share at this time.

Jim
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by James Drummond - 09/08/2017 11:04 pm
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
10627 Posts
Posted 09/08/2017   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am able to do so because I have spent 4+ decades examining the margins of thousands of genuine imperf and part perf stamps plus thousands of trimmed stamps. That is what a "trained eye" is, and how one acquires one. And I have been fortunate to have one of the foremost experts in first issues teach me during all this time (someone who has collected first issues exclusively for the past 55 years).
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Rest in Peace
United States
1738 Posts
Posted 09/08/2017   11:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Now, if your laundry list of resources and qualifications is what it takes to recognize a trimmed stamp


Last point:

You do know that I wasn't referring to myself, right?

Jim
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2555 Posts
Posted 09/08/2017   11:37 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am sure you read my thread about the 3c 1851 thin paper stamp. The stamp was identified by Ashbrook and was also certed by PSE. Everybody got it wrong. Experience is good and even necessary but it will only help you with the facts.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2555 Posts
Posted 09/08/2017   11:38 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jim... yes.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Rest in Peace
United States
1738 Posts
Posted 09/09/2017   12:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I am sure you read my thread about the 3c 1851 thin paper stamp.


I am sorry but, no, I have not.

I don't really collect postage stamps, sorry.

Jim
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2555 Posts
Posted 09/09/2017   09:30 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The post was meant for Bart, who does frequent the U.S. Classics forum. Your post managed to get in between.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
12566 Posts
Posted 09/09/2017   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sinclair - Good Morning. I see that your expertise extends beyond graded stamps. Many thanks for sharing your insights.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
6433 Posts
Posted 09/09/2017   11:25 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The post was meant for Bart, who does frequent the U.S. Classics forum. Your post managed to get in between.


Hence the importance of quoting the person you are replying to or putting in a salutation, such as "Sinclair -" as rogdcam did in the post above.

Avoids a lot of confusion and misinterpretation.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by revenuecollector - 09/09/2017 11:27 am
Pillar Of The Community
692 Posts
Posted 09/09/2017   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Revenuecollector - how do you do the quotes?

Been trying to figure that out for a while!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Rest in Peace
United States
1738 Posts
Posted 09/09/2017   11:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
state:

Hover your mouse over these icons and it will tell you what they do.



Jim
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
France, Metropolitan
3745 Posts
Posted 09/09/2017   12:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first stamp in the start of this thread and the second one I took from a post by revenuecollector on 11/27/16.Just to show the differences that's all.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
692 Posts
Posted 09/09/2017   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Hover your mouse over these icons and it will tell you what they do.


Jim - thank you very much!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
10627 Posts
Posted 09/09/2017   12:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As it happens, I don't recall that particular thread, so I don't know why it relates. If you are implying that the past masters did not know everything, that is obviously true. That has little to do with a personal understanding of margins, or how various stamp paper is affected by being perforated, or what perforated or rouletted edges look like versus edges that have been cut with a scissors or a razor or a steel rule.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2555 Posts
Posted 09/16/2017   9:27 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I contacted the seller of these revenues. He said he bought them from Apfelbaum and assumed that they were legitimate imperf revenues. I have no reason to believe that he is not being honest. He was also generous enough to loan the stamps to me for scanning. As was fairly obvious, the R92a shows remnants of about four perforation holes at upper left. Niether the R2a or the R32a show any evidence of perforation holes.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 3 Previous TopicReplies: 41 / Views: 6,053Next Topic  
Previous Page | Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.22 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05