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Posted 10/18/2017   10:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add msdot281 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
See the Isle of Pabay Stamps below. I looked them up on Google and it appears that they may be local stamps used on the Isle of Pabay in order to get the mail from the island to a main post office.

So are they considered stamps or not? If so, how do I determine their value (they are really nice stamps!)? Or would they be considered Cinderellas, perhaps? Any help would be appreciated.


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Posted 10/18/2017   10:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great Britain private local issues.
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Posted 10/18/2017   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Depends on with whom you speak.
I consider them "locals"
Value: whatever ebay will give you, very little I expect.

I collect them, but then again, I collect anything.




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Edited by rod222 - 10/19/2017 01:19 am
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Posted 10/18/2017   10:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ggreve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
pabay.org is selling them:

1967 Kennedy and Churchill Gold Foil Perf
PS030(PS57) 3d Gold Foil (55 x 35mm) £4.00
PS031(PA58) 6d Gold Foil (55 x 35mm) £5.00
PS032(PA59) 1/9 Gold Foil (55 x 35mm) £7.00
PS033(PA60) 4/6 Gold Foil (55 x 35mm) £9.00
PS034(PA61) 5/- Gold Foil Large Size (80 x 55mm) £10.00

http://www.pabay.org/stamps.html
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Posted 10/18/2017   11:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, I am looking at Rod's map and there are several things that confuse me. The island's name is spelled with one "b" on stamps, but with two b's on the map. Also, there are two isles of Pabbay on the map. The second, larger one is above the island of North Uist.

Also, you will see an isle of Berneray below Rod's Pabbay. There is another isle of Berneray below the more northerly isle of Pabbay. Very strange.
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Posted 10/19/2017   12:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately Rod's arrow is pointing in the wrong direction. There are at least 3 islands in the Outer Hebrides named Pabbay. However the "stamp" issuing island of Pabay is part of the Inner Hebrides, just off the Eastern coast of Skye. It does not appear to be shown on the above map.

There is a history of the stamps of Pabay here:

http://www.pabay.org/h_phil.html
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Posted 10/19/2017   01:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Unfortunately Rod's arrow is pointing in the wrong direction.


Yikes !

Thanks for the heads up, Guys and Gals.

I'll search for another Map, and repost.....................



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Edited by rod222 - 10/19/2017 01:09 am
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Posted 10/28/2017   11:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add msdot281 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone for all of your comments, maps and help. I really appreciate it!
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Posted 03/16/2021   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hamster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am new to this but I am looking for these two Isle of Pabay stamps from 2002 and 2003




Please help!

Thank you,
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Posted 03/16/2021   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@HAMSTER,

What is your question.

Those are local carriage labels. As the original post states, they were used to pay for carriage from this Scottish island to a post office on the mainland. There, they entered the offical mail stream. You had to pay postage for that as well. They are not officially recognised by postal authorities, but they do pay for mail. So, they are stamps, but many will consider them cinderellas.
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Posted 03/16/2021   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.pabay.org/stamps/
I think all the British island local posts sell their stamps online, sometimes including back issues.

So much for the days of the 1d, 2d, 3d stamps.
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Edited by hy-brasil - 03/16/2021 5:38 pm
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Posted 03/16/2021   6:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Search _Isle of pabay
quiet a few on ebay. 274720302197
For Delcampe the wording for the search is; pabay I or pabay islqand
yes with the q. There are other combinations....
look under stamps (no definite country)

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Edited by perf12 - 03/16/2021 7:01 pm
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Posted 03/17/2021   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hamster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My question is: Where can I buy these two stamps as shown, with the ham radio call overprint?

Thank you for your help,
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Posted 03/17/2021   11:34 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Have you contacted the email address in hy-brasil's link to enquire about back catalogue items?
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Posted 03/17/2021   1:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do not think he has them, but he might be able to find them or know where to get them.

https://www.grahamlandstamps.co.uk/
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Posted 03/17/2021   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hamster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I did contact Pabay Island. The person that printed some of these is Jeff Harris, and 88 year old ham radio operator. He is a very nice fellow who sold two of the other stamps from Pabay. Unfortunately he does not have these two and doesn't know anyone that does. I am not sure, but I think he is not a stamp collector, just a good ham that put the island on the airwaves.

Thank you for the suggestion of https://www.grahamlandstamps.co.uk/. I will follow up with them.
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