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Yes. All types are known, so it comes down to matching the characteristics and confirming it. There are 10 types for the one dollar plus differences for the reprints.
Sorry, but having done that, this is a fake and not even a reprint. Also, Pony Express stamps are not as pale and weakly printed as what I see on my computer. |
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Is this the best scan you can provide? It looks out of focus or soft plus a very muted color. |
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Is a problem of my scanner, ill take and upload a picture or better scanner. The real color is hard than this. |
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The image has the characteristics of the genuine especially in the 1 and around the horse's mouth. Other required traits cannot be seen with this image quality. It is not a reprint - the horse's mouth is wide open and the shading lines near the mouth would be missing.  This scan above is a genuine $1 L43L3 to compare Although it has good value, yours is nowhere near the ~$900 listed for an unused copy as it is trimmed into the frame. There are a LOT of forgeries ranging from good to very crude. BTW scanners are rarely the issue, it is 99.9% technique and software |
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| Edited by nl1947 - 10/31/2017 08:28 am |
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nll947, could you tell me what plate position or type this is? I can't identify the type. Also, yours looks engraved or typographed from the scan; the originals are finely lithographed. |
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A friend is looking the stamp, in two or three days ill have again with me and ill try to take a picture with macro objetive. We talk soon. Thanks and regards. |
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Larry Lyons' 3 volume work "The Identifier for Carriers, Locals, Fakes, Forgeries and Bogus Posts of the United States" details the reprints, fakes and forgeries of this issue. Not an inexpensive set of books, but a wise investment for anyone interested in carriers and locals. It will pay for itself very fast. And better for your purposes in this case, the Siegel website has Scott Trepel's "Wells Fargo & Company 1861 Pony Express Issues", which details the individual plate positions of the genuine stamps. https://siegelauctions.com/enc/pdf/Pony_Stamps.pdf |
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| Edited by John Becker - 11/02/2017 1:50 pm |
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Hello again, my 1$ red pony express is genuine, that is the dictamen of the expert, but my others no. I upload a piture of red, and others.  |
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After more research, Astrakov's example does have the line/blur below "AR" that is characteristic of pos.s L14, L16, R14, and also the blur above it. It's not L14 as it does not have "line in scroll".
In Trepel's article and what I have (B&W), the stop/erased "S"s are pretty distinctive by position, and pretty accurately photographed, I thought. This can't be R14 for that reason. But while they are close, Trepel's L16 and Astrakov's didn't and still don't match to my eye. The line/blur should be pretty definitive, though, as is the overall design better seen in the later scan, so I defer to the expert.
Thanks for showing the fakes -- it gives us a good reference. |
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