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Posted 11/10/2017   06:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Sobo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello!

In a random lot that purchased some month ago, I found this strange stamp.. I don't recall ever seeing it anywhere and I can't read from the stamp. Any ideas?

Thanks :)


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Posted 11/11/2017   05:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It has the similar frame to Germany.
I can read perhaps "DEUTSCHE COLONIE" around the band.
Overall, looks dodgy.

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Edited by rod222 - 11/11/2017 05:14 am
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Posted 11/11/2017   05:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sobo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you :)
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Posted 11/11/2017   09:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure what this is.

I also see "DEUTSCH COLONIE" in the text, but (1) this is not a stamp or postcard cutout of any German colony, (2) the postmark is not a German colonial postmark, (3) the letters in the cancel don't match any location I've been able to find, and (4) in German, colony is spelled "Kolonie", not "Colonie".
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Presenting the GermanStamps.net Collection - Germany, Colonies, & Occupied Territories, 1872-1945
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Posted 11/11/2017   10:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Postmaster.
Thank you for confirmation,
Only guess left by me, is perhaps a (severely damaged) cut out from tourist postcard, as this Dulos stamp on a Turkey Postcard.

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Posted 11/11/2017   1:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Design does not match anything I can find in the Michel Special-Katalog Der deutschen Privatpostmarken (old city post/private carriers), although the private carriers frequently "borrowed" designs from German, Finnish and other stamps.

I would guess that this is a bogus/fantasy production based on what appears to be the "Deutsche Colonie" inscription.
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Posted 11/11/2017   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes "Kolonie" was also written like "Colonie", and often smaller groups of German people founded their own "Colonie" somewhere, so it does not necessarily mean that "Colonie" means a country here, but also a region, town or even "farm". I would guess it is a part of a card with a fantasy cinderella. Last try could be that there are letters also in the lower part of the circle - perhaps a better scan would help.
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Posted 11/11/2017   2:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes that's right ,Colony can be with a "C".I was thinking about German settlements in the South Africa area? ...eritz(land) ?
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Posted 11/11/2017   3:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good point, perf12. Before the German government assumed responsibilty for the German settlements in what was to become German Southwest Africa in 1884, a portion of the settlements was known as Lüderitzland. That's the correct number of characters for a symmetrical cancel, too.
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Posted 11/11/2017   3:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PostmasterGS excellent..MAP


From what I gather the settlement was named after Luderitz, hence
Luderitzland !
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibli...6ECBD3TQ37WM
In fact this stamp is a private issue prioir too the official colonial
status of that area.It is a rare stamp...IMO
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Posted 11/11/2017   4:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can find no mention of stamps in my internet search of "Luederitzland Marken". Hopefully more information will appear here on SCF.
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Posted 11/11/2017   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JPMG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a stationery cut out
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Posted 11/11/2017   4:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Whatever the item is, be it trimmed stamp, imperforate stamp, or postal stationery cutout, if you have information about it, please share it with the rest of us.
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Posted 11/11/2017   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A more detailed map of Deutsch sudwestafrika.Luderitzland is well
indicated.
https://geogreif.uni-greifswald.de/...W-Afrika.jpg
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Posted 11/11/2017   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JPMG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
bookbndrbob, I said it's a stationery because I recognize the kind of green paper used on postcard as example.


Here a low resolution exemple, It's too low to see the paper grain, but if I scan one at 1200 DPI it will give the same thing as the one of the DOBO


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Posted 11/11/2017   5:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting.. I think Sobo should give us a better photo of the front
& back.No mention about the paper or anything...What happened to Sobo?
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