1c 1851 Plate 1-Late Stamps

I have always found that Richard Doporto is agreeable to the use of images from his archive provided that acknowledgement of the source is explicitly given.

I doubt that he will respond soon. Last time I sent him a message, it took him 2 months to answer.

According to your fair use chart, as long as I am using images for educational purpose and not for profit, then I really do not need permission for any photos. That opens up a lot of debate. I do not worry about copyright laws for pictures because I have nothing that anyone could sue me for. Not to mention that the courts would take 10 years to prosecute. I will be dead by then. What I read there is that as long as I am not making a profit from it, I can take every picture that I want from the internet.

These fears of copyright laws is what is holding this stamp collecting hobby from gaining knowledge. We have this great source of information but everyone is afraid to use it. We need to break through these barriers. So according to that chart, any picture that is used for education and not for profit can be taken from the internet. So that is what I am doing. Any image that I post, I give permission for anyone to use for any reason. If you do not want your picture used, then do not post it on the internet. It is that simple. I will not let things like that hamper my thirst for knowledge.

Many will not agree with me but that is always a part of life.

Jaxom

I agree with you. We have had discussions about this. However others may view it as a steal of someone's research or hard work. Courteous thing to do is just ask. I don't think txstamp or others think this is about making money, just courtesy. Basically you are doing research so giving credit where credit is due is generally all that is asked.
And as I said before, your idea of producing this chart of guide dots is a great idea. Please repost it at some point so I have more reference material to put on my computer

Rg

Jaxom, If you can manage, a little bit of introspection may be in order here. Your creation was nice and everybody complimented you for it. I wish I had the computer skills to do it myself. The problem that I had was that you managed to credit yourself in the lower right corner but did not give one iota of credit to the providers of the images. It doesn't matter now how we got here, you just need to admit to what is right and move on.

Why is it so important to get credit for providing an image of something that one did not create or develop artistically. Ego.

I posted my name on it because I created it. No pictures were "provided" to me. I took what was available and free. If someone does not want their pictures copied, then do not post them on the internet. It is thst simple. There is no profit, so there can be no crime. Let someone sue me, I have nothing to loose.

Keep digging, you're almost there.

Has anyone bothered to check what Richard himself says?

"DISCLAIMER and COPYRIGHT INFORMATION:
Thanks for visiting this site. I hope you learn something new as we are making new discoveries all the time. You, the visitor, have my permission to link to my pages and to share the INFORMATION with others. The images themselves fall under the fair use guidelines established by the United States Congress and Copyright law. Basically contact us before using. I also ask in return that you send me an e-mail if I have made a mistake, or have made some other technical blunder that in my rush to put these pages up would cause the visitor confusion. Please also visit my other website at http://slingshotvenus.com. and support the live music arts. While your there, be sure to purchase our music. There are not many philatelic rock stars around and we need all the help we can get. :-)"

I received two quick responses from the two places that I requested permission to use pictures from.

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Siegel Auction Galleries <stamps@siegelauctions.com>
Today, 10:44 AM
Good afternoon,
You are welcome to use our pictures as long as you cite us.
Regards,
Emma
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Richard Doporto
Today, 12:47 PMYou

Hi Richard

Very nice. If it is to be used publically we only ask that you credit and refer to the Archive. This image would be useful for the Archive plate 1L description page.


Richard Doporto
One Cent Franklin Archive
Sonic Imagery Labs
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These are the only two sources other than my stamps that I am using for my chart. I will add a citation to both parties and repost it.

Here is the guide dot chart for plate 1 right that I posted the other day.
I have asked for and received permission to use the pictures from the One Cent Franklin Archive (Doporto) and Siegel Auction Galleries.
I will finish the left pane and post it here when I am done.
Feel free to copy the image for your reference.

Richard Doporto sent me another email asking for permission to post my guide dot chart on his plate 1 late intro page and inquired about the left pane chart. I sent him both and gave my permission to him to use them.

Here are the finished charts:

AJ Valente has sent me some images of the water drop test to differentiate machine-made from handmade papers.

His instructions as previously posted: "Place the stamp face down on a non-absorbent surface (e.g. glass). Next, using an eye-dropper, place between 3-4 drops of water on the subject. One of two reactions will occur--if the stamp curls like mad, then its machine-made paper. On the other hand, if the stamp just sits there, or curls only a little bit, then it's handmade paper."

The image on the right shows only mild curling and according to AJ, signifies that the paper is handmade.

This stamp is the subject of the test, an 8R1L.

Very nice stamp there.

I appreciate AJ sending me the images and I hope he continues. However, I do think that the water drop test has at least one serious flaw. Since I believe the 1851's were printed on a machine-made paper, I think it is a fairly simple matter to identify some of the potential pitfalls of the test and cast reasonable doubt on the results.