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New South Wales Numeral Cancels

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Posted 12/18/2022   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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And how refreshing to see a Tatts piece with something other than a 1d or 2d stamp.


Eagle eyes! I missed that one. Well done.
Any idea why 5d
Enclosures?

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Posted 12/18/2022   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
2d for postage and 3d for registration Rod.

I have seen 3d diadems used on Tatts covers for the Registration, and have seen a pair of 1897 2.5d on a Tatts cover to make the 5d rate. These are all on covers posted from Sydney.

I do wonder if the smallest Post Offices only had 1d & 2d stamps on hand. Indeed, the piece above is the first time I can recall seeing a stamp of another denomination in relation to Tatts that originated from a country Post Office.
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Posted 12/18/2022   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bobby,
For any students of (sic Tatts) Tattersalls Mail Covers etc.........
That are reading.

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Edited by rod222 - 12/18/2022 6:51 pm
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Posted 12/18/2022   7:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Numeral collectors are very grateful for the Tattersalls find.

For NSW, despite Freeman's incredible book, the Brown & Campbell volume is still worth having.
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Posted 12/21/2022   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Any information available on this NSW Parcel Post Postmark, please?
Sc# 82 1888 1 shilling Kangaroo P11x12
NSW Centenary.
Roller Cancel?

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Edited by rod222 - 12/21/2022 4:53 pm
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Posted 12/21/2022   5:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

That is a parcel post roller cancel, White type N27 (date on top).

Known used to 1899 but EKD not known.

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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 12/21/2022 5:51 pm
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Posted 12/21/2022   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tops! Thankyou Bobby.
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Posted 12/22/2022   03:14 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John S. White's book (The Postal History of New South Wales 1788-1901, Philatelic Association of New South Wales) also informs us that the 'pair' of dated parcel rollers were introduced on 1st October 1893.

Here is part of type N26, with the date on the lower line:
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Posted 12/22/2022   03:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
White says under the illustration that the N26 is known from 1889 but on the following page (p. 380) says the two devices were introduced in 1893 as fairdinkumstamps says.

So, which one is it? The examples I have are all post 1893.
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Posted 12/22/2022   03:35 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It would be great to see your examples Bobby De La Rue, if you get the chance.

I'll have a look to see if I can find any more.
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Posted 12/22/2022   05:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I have other straight line smudged cancels on the 1/-
as to be expected on parcels (ilegible)

An Unusual Pmk on 1/-


This Pmk has always intrigued me, I see 82
but perhaps the specialists can ID by the rays?

Looks like on a Broadsheet fragment.

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Posted 12/22/2022   3:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing terribly flash fairdinkumstamps. There's only a half dozen and the dates aren't legible in some of them.

Nice pieces Rod. The Museum piece gives the impression of being from a document, rather than a parcel piece. "faithfully performed" is intriguing.

I like the newspaper piece but I can't make out the numeral for love nor money. The multiple strikes make it that much more difficult. If the stamp is perf. 11x12 we can narrow the dates down and hope to fluke it by searching Trove for the part phrases in your second image, which would be page 2 of the newspaper.

Numeral 82 is Armidale, so I had a look at the Armidale Express layout from the 1880s, but it doesn't look like a match.

The top of page 1 looks pretty fancy. The only newspapers I could find on a quick look with something that intricate were the Australian Town & Country Journal and the Illustrated Sydney News, but the designs are different.
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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 12/22/2022 3:47 pm
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Posted 12/22/2022   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Bobby, for your time, and observations.
Interesting and highly appreciated.
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Posted 12/23/2022   01:46 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John Fowler and Co. were regular advertisers of their Steam Plough and Locomotive Works at the time:


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Posted 12/23/2022   01:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!
Full marks, FDS
That is amazing, had this 20 years, wondering.

I had thought "Lombard Street" but was searching in NSW, not London.

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