The Other Precancels: Silent Precancels

OK I have the one with the piano.

I figure that they are probaly common silent precancels especially on bulk mailings.

Ok, now we enter a new world of precancels.

The precanceled stamps stamperdude has pointed out is one of the most recent spin on precanceling on stamps.
Silent Bureau Precancel. This issues are overprinted with only 2 lines or 2 lines and the following words between the lines;
AUTH NON-/PROFIT, CAR-RT/SORT, PRESORTED/FIRST-CLASS, Blk.RT/CAR-RT/SORT, Nonprofit Org./CAR-RT, Non-profit/Org. & Bulk Rate,

Others without lines overprinted with the words;
Nonprofit/Org., Nonprofit/5-Digit ZIP+4, Bulk Rate/Carrier Route Sort, PRESORT/FIRST CLASS, ZIP+4 & ZIP+4/Presort.

The difference between these precancels and the aforementioned 'silent' precancels is that these 'silent' precancels were used throughout the USA and the earlier posted 'silent' precancels were local in nature, they can be attributed to a specific city/town/post office.

Next: Modern Natural Precancels

Mike

Prexie "Silent" Precancels:

Strathmore, CA on 804, 3 stencel horz. lines
Ormond Beach, FL on 816, 4 vertical rectangles
Nachusa, IL on 804, 3 horz. lines
Leesburg, IN on 804, 1 ruled vert. line
West Lebanon, IN on 806, 1-4 horz. long wavy lines
Mulvane, KS on 804, 3 horz. lines
Paris, KY on 804, 1 vert. brush stroke
Federalsburg, MD on 848, 3 horz. lines
Federalsburg, MD on 804, 5 horz. lines
Federalsburg, MD on 2 803, & 804, double oval, donut shape, oval covers 2 803 50/50
Federalsburg, MD on 3 803 all together, with sea wavy lines
Cologne, MN on 804 & 805, 5-6 hriz. lines
West Plains, MO on 840, 1-2 vert. long wavy lines
Wildwood, NJ on 803, 45% diagonals .25mm apart, between 2 lines
Westbury, NY on 804, 4 horz. lines
Woodstock, NY on 805, 1 vert. bar
Clifton Park, PA on 839, 6 wavy lines
Ponce, PR on 839, a square with 3 lines extending outward
Bethel, VT on 805, 1 vert. smudged bar
Oregon, WI on 804, 3 horz. bars

Mike

Would these be considered silent precancels





Dianne

wonderful lesson by the way.

My contribution to the "Silent" precancel.

Canada #35,1870-93. Type you (Montreal)
#75 1898 Type T
David (DJD)

Not so silent


Courtesy of "Happy Jack" Giles

Diane & DJD,
Those are some interesting strikes.

Yes, Canadian styled silents. These like the Silent bureau's I recently mentioned
are silent and were used throughout Canada, not local as the earlier Canadian issues were.

The second post by djd shown is another genre all together.
It may be call a local "commemorative" or "souvenir" precancel they principally
are used in relation to local Philatelic events. These almost always privately applied with tacit or no approval from the general post office.
These are not well documented, but often command a premium at auctions.

Mike

Sharksfan11, Your question if "silent" precancels are rare the answer is yes.
The most common silent would have no more then 2000 copies, most have less then 100 known copies.

Mike

Ok Mike sounds like you are up on the precancel subject. So after some sorting for Phil for his new area of collecting I came across a pack of Perfin Precancels. Where would these fit in to the scheme of precancels?

1775mac, To answer your question, NO they are not precancels.
Perfin's is an entirely different fish. They are "control marks"
used by businesses to control internal theft. This method in part
was enforced through the PO, if they found a perfin being used in a
private letter forinstance they could report to that company and actions
would be taken against the employee.

Most Perfins use the initials of the company that used them.
However, some would use symbols, like Chevrolet used their classic
emblem outline as their perfin.
In general perfins in the US were mainly used by the railroads, but of course,
not limited to them.

Mike

Another form of precanceled stamps.

A nice door gift from the T.H.B. stamps club.
(Toronto ,Hamilton,And Buffalo)
David(DJD)

Another door gift.

Quite a progressive club .
They alternated club events between all three sites .
All about 60 miles apart.
David(DJD)

Ok, Mike I understand what a perfin is but these are precancel - perfins. See following scans please. There are more. Hopefully the pictures will show the perfins. So back to my question where do these fall into the scheme of things? First, a precancel will lower the numbers and a perfin will also lower the numbers. So put them together and the information and numbers dwindle down. I have had these for some time and it is not like you can just go out and get a cat. for something like this for information. I had two people inquire about them but I just do not know value or where they would fall into. Thanks for any help.