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Posted 01/22/2018   2:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dave 1941 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can someone help with what the complete postmarks might be on these Turkish stamps? First just shows N-KEUY and the second just shows IRGUN.
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Posted 01/22/2018   3:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I find several 'keuy, in my database, but only 1 match on 'n-keuy', namely 'Stankeuy' (Kos). However Stankeuy is spelled without the '-' in my list. See example off Stankeuy here: http://www.stampcircuit.com/stamp-A...itsos-public


'irgun' can be Mirgun.
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Posted 01/22/2018   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave 1941 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Blaamand. Thanks for your help. Maybe at some time they used a Stan-Keuy cancellation. Mirgun is a good bet on the other one. Thanks again.
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Posted 01/22/2018   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Dave and Blamaand,

I believe this 1926 stamp is too late to be have been used on Cos which became an Italian possession in 1912.

However, the word "köy" in Turkish means "bay" as in "Kadiköy" so I'm not surprised that Blamaand you have several references with this.

Could you possibly share the names you have with "keuy" so I could check if there are variants in the handbook which might fit?

I agree that the other postmark is Mirgun / Emirgan on the Bosphorus.
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Posted 01/22/2018   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave 1941 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nigelc As usual I value your expertise. Hopefully we can find out what the complete cancellation of N-KEUY is.
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Posted 01/23/2018   04:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dave - my pleasure.

Nigel -good observation about the timeline I was also suspicious about the 'Stankeuy' possibility, because all the samples Google could provide were on older stamps, with a different style postmark and without the '-', which was also why I posted the link in last post to demonstrate the difference between the postmarks.

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Could you possibly share the names you have with "keuy" ...?


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Posted 01/23/2018   06:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks very much Blamaand!

I looked up each of these but couldn't see any variations that would fit.

I've just tried searching for placenames in Turkey ending in "nköy/n-köy/n köy" on the geonames site and found 485 which didn't help much!
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Posted 01/23/2018   10:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave 1941 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could it be that at sometime they changed from Stankeuy to Stan-keuy or vice a versa?
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Posted 01/23/2018   12:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Dave,

I don't think it can be Stankeuy because of the date.

However, I believe I've found the postmark: EREN-KEUY, Erenköy, a suburb of Constantinople / Istanbul on the Asian side.

The reference and picture are in the last addendum in Volume 4 (Turkey-in-Asia) of Coles & Walker so I'm glad I started looking in this volume.

This has the right format including the large figure 1.

By the way I see that "köy" also means village.

There are around 24 places called Erenköy in Turkey and around 281 places called Yeniköy ("new village")!
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Edited by nigelc - 01/23/2018 12:44 pm
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Posted 01/23/2018   1:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dave 1941 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nigel
You probably hit the nail on the head. Thank you.
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Posted 03/20/2018   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DCStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This looks like the perfect thread to ask this:

Can anyone help me identify the postmark on this stamp. I have searched my limited references (and google of course) and can't find a place which matches these letters.

...GNISSA

Thanks

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Posted 03/20/2018   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I believe this is from Manisa (Magnesia) in Turkey.
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Posted 03/20/2018   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DCStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I originally thought so too, but the "G" really threw me, as my understanding of the French spelling is "MANISSA"
But you are probably right.
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Posted 03/20/2018   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Different spellings were used at various times on Manisa postmarks:

- MAGNESIA
- MAGNÉSIE
- MAGNISSA
- MANISSA

There is also a MANISSA (GARE) postmark.



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Posted 03/20/2018   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DCStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you - your knowledge and expertise amaze me.
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Posted 03/20/2018   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's very kind but I've got some very useful reference books.
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