Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Yiddish Postbus Ticket?

Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 4,655Next Topic
Page: of 2
Valued Member

14 Posts
Posted 09/18/2009   05:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add awmartin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have what appears to be a Cinderella item, but I may be wrong. The stamp appears to be Austrian in origin, but in Yiddish it says "Jewish Post Bus."

Has somebody seen a stamp like this before?



Thank You
Send note to Staff
Edited by awmartin - 09/18/2009 05:52 am

Pillar Of The Community
Canada
1259 Posts
Posted 09/18/2009   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add djd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We may have to wait until "Londonbus" returns from his drinking tour of Europe
David(DJD)
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2758 Posts
Posted 09/18/2009   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen them before, can't recall when or where.
This may have been used in Krackow or Silesia Regions of Austrian Postal areas
within the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Mike
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by warrehouse - 09/18/2009 12:29 pm
Valued Member
14 Posts
Posted 09/18/2009   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add awmartin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the response everyone. I have seen some similar stamps with a"Poczta Polska" on them but I am not sure if they are related.

Thank you for your help. I am glad that I found this forum.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by awmartin - 09/18/2009 5:38 pm
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2758 Posts
Posted 09/18/2009   5:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Poczta Polska are the locals of post WW1 Poland for use in Polish areas that were formally under Austro-Hungarian control.
This is a local but for a smaller group of Yiddish Jews. I've been poking around have not found anything definitive yet.

Mike
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by warrehouse - 09/18/2009 5:44 pm
Valued Member
14 Posts
Posted 09/23/2009   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add awmartin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have been doing some research on this stamp, and using the information that warrehouse provided. I believe you are correct that this stamp may have been used in Krakow and other regions of Austria-Hungarian Empire. I think that that this stamp may have been used in Galicia, which encompassed southern Poland and Northern A-H from 1916-1918. That is all that I could find out.

Does anybody know what the next step that can be taken in order to verify any of this information?

Thanks
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2758 Posts
Posted 09/24/2009   12:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm surprised at the lack on information on this stamp.
I will surmise that this is a post WW1 private post used provisionally by using acquired stamps from the now defunct Austro-Hungarian Empire and overprint them in Yiddish, principally, but not likely exclusively, for the local Jewish population corresponce.

Mike
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by warrehouse - 09/24/2009 2:28 pm
Valued Member
14 Posts
Posted 09/24/2009   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add awmartin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do you think that it might be worth it to get it certified in order to make sure that the writing on it is authentic with the period of the stamp?

I will try to find some professional stamp experts in Poland/Slovakia to see if they recognize or can tell me something else that I don't know. I will post here if I get any responses.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2758 Posts
Posted 09/24/2009   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
awmartin, I hope you don't mind.
But I sent an image of your stamp to the "Austria Philatelic Society".
I think that's one place to identify the stamp.
Who knows maybe it will turn out to be unique!

Mike
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Canada
1259 Posts
Posted 09/24/2009   6:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add djd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Londonbus
Where are you when we need you
David(DJD)
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2758 Posts
Posted 09/24/2009   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
David, On Vacation at a stamp convention!!

Mike
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
14 Posts
Posted 09/24/2009   7:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add awmartin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thank you so much for your help warrehouse!

I was finally able to take a much better picture of the stamp.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2758 Posts
Posted 09/25/2009   7:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
awmartin, I have not received an answer for the Austria PS yet. This may take awhile.

Mike
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
14 Posts
Posted 10/01/2009   3:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add awmartin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Update: I have emailed 10+ stamp experts, focusing mostly on ones who specialize in Jewish stamps. I have received three responses, and none of them could tell me any more than I told them. They want me to email them back when I find anything else.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2758 Posts
Posted 10/01/2009   5:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course they do. I find this a very interesting item. I've not yet received a response from the Austrian Society so far.

Mike
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by warrehouse - 10/01/2009 6:55 pm
Pillar Of The Community
Israel
6191 Posts
Posted 10/08/2009   4:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi awmartin,
Nice stamp !
I have sent a scan to a Cinderella stamp group.
I have never seen one before. Does the stamp have gum? It looks like an excellent copy. It may be a private post stamp of a local Bus company for carrying mail. They have overprinted excess stocks of a 1918 Austrian stamp for this purpose . Doubtless they didn't need to get permission in those days !!
The blue ink marks? Could they be a cancellation if the stamp doesn't have gum ? Or even if it does?

Polish issues of 1919 were of Austrian stamps overprinted 'Poczta Polska', and that overprint on this Austrian stamp [SG#261] was SG#44, Red on yellow.{not sure of Scott No offhand].

So let's hope Mike's enquiries prove fruitful.
Interesting item.

Londonbus1...Of course it could be a fantasy or fake overprint !
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 2 Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 4,655Next Topic  
Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.21 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05