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Definitely A 594, Not Sure If I Have A 596

 
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Posted 02/25/2018   04:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add theironlung to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
scott 632 is on the far right, Its obvious by the eye the 594, though its in bad shape. The possible 596 is slightly vertically stretched and taller than the 594 or 632, and you can see the perforations match up horizontally with the 594, 11 perforations. I know KC is the only precancel city known, but its possible some made it to Joplin. Any thoughts?
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Posted 02/25/2018   04:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please use the search function in this forum and type '594' into the search box and then use drop down box to filter for Search In = "Subject Only". You will find 20+ threads where this topic has previously been discussed; all of the posters thought they had rare rotary waste stamps.

If you remain sure that you have one after reading those threads, you should send it in to PF or APEX for certification. Please be sure to come back and let us know the results.
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thank you, I already have. The scott 632 is pictured to the far right, and is what most misidentify at the 594. It is quite obvious the 3rd pictured stamp is a rotary waste with 11 perforations, stretched horizontally were is it quite obvious to the eye the difference between that and the 632. I know to send stamps for certification, I have no doubt of the 594, I am unsure of the 596 and have researched it extensively. Its quite expensive to send a stamp for certification, I supplied a good visual, I was just looking for friendly advice.
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If you read the other threads then you know that confirmation bias overrides common sense. Please send it in and let us know the results.
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Posted 02/25/2018   05:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add theironlung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, then can anyone help identify the Joplin precancel? it looks to be perforation 11, rotary coil and horizontally stretched. It is visibly taller, anyone have an idea on what Scott# it might be? I have searched usphelia and other sites
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It is not perf 11 x 11. Please scan the Joplin stamp with the perforation gauge showing how you got to 11 x 11.

Here is a digital comparison show the left hand perfs compared to the bottom perfs, obviously they are not the same. If it was 11 x 11, the perfs would line up.

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Um, no it isn't.

You're talking about stamps that we can count on one hand, compared to billions of the common types issued.

You cannot identify stamps visually. You need to get yourself a perforation gauge & practice/learn how to measure perforations correctly.

Once you get past the perforation barrier, (which you haven't thus far...) you'll need a precision measurement tool, to be able to measure the designs within fractions of a millimeter. Not even Superman could do it with the naked eye...
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The first stamp from the left appears to be flat plate 552 with 11 x 11 perfs.
The fourth stamp from the left appears to be rotary press 632 with 11 1/4 x 10 1/2 perfs.
Both the second and third stamps from the left also appear to have the same 11 1/4 x 10 1/2 perfs.
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They are not 11 x 11, I was trying to get the OP to learn and gauge them himself rather than doing the work for him.
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First off, the last 3 stamps in your image don't even have remotely the correct shade for a 594/6.

These stamps are incredibly rare, literally you're talking about 1 in millions if not 1 in 100 million (I once did that math and it was something akin to that).

These just do not show up with anywhere near the regularity that people pop onto this forum do swearing they have one, which they don't.
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Posted 02/25/2018   12:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add disi123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
theironlung... before any continued intelligent conversation and analysis of your stamps, can proceed, you need to upload backscans, to isolate (and eliminate) any possible flat press stamps.

And, as a quick note... it's the 596 and 632 which are confused with one another, not the 594.
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