Inherited Bunch Of Stamps From Grandfather...online Site Calls This Hungary Stamp Forgery...why?

Thanks to every one for their assistance.

Never collected world in any form and it sure does show. lol

After we got married we did 18,000 miles in a Combie around Europe in 1979.

Never did to Hungary.

Canada and their loonie coin is an interest take as well.

Overprinted stamps from Hungary is a huge problem forgery-wise.
Specialist literature is a must if you want to go down that route.
Certified genuine stamps are not common, which makes things even harder.

Someone noted that cheap common stamps are unlikely candidates for forged stamps.
This is unfortunately not the case. 100's of cheap stamps were forged for the packet trade in the 60's. Simply because it was easier than getting the real ones from exotic countries around the world.
Many of them are not mentioned in Michel.

That would have been me. But, is this true for these surcharges specifically? I know offhand of the Japan definitives that were forged for packets. And those were imperf mint single-color stamps that had no gum as the genuine often did not. Printing a stamp color, overprinting in a different color, canceling in another different color, and perfing a forgery is too much work and too expensive for packet stamps in general, I believe. That would have to be done for this issue. Trucial States CTOs of the 1960s by comparison were probably done in 2 passes, maybe 3. Have you got any Hungarian packet forgeries from the 1960s to show?

Again going back to Rod's scan, I believe I see the two types noted. The left stamps are the second type (from the black and white scan), the right stamps are the first type. Note also the "harp" encloses a smaller space in the second type, which could be just coincidence since it's not mentioned as a feature. The upper left stamp shows the slightly blurred ornaments quite well. The overprint is a slight bit grayer/duller. There is only a slight difference in print quality otherwise, to my eye.

My comment were not about these Hungarian stamps in particular, but in general.

I wrote:


I believe I was speaking of the Hungarian stamps noted in the OP specifically. In any case, if forging cheap stamps is unlikely then hundreds of forgeries made for packets in the 1960s is still a drop in the bucket vs. all the stamps issued before then. And hundreds of different forgeries of cheap stamps made in the 1960s? I doubt it. Start a new post and please provide your evidence. The Japan issue has already been mentioned. What else is there?

short on time, so didn't have time to read every reply.

look at the overprint, doesn't it appears to be on top of the cancel?

if so, that surely qualifies as a forgery.

in any case..

overprinted stamps were most commonly used either because you had a sudden need for a different value stamps, or because there was a huge supply of unused stamps of a not needed value.

in most cases (i think almost all) overprinted stamps are worth less unused than cancelled. making forgery tempting.

also, many of these stamps would have a very short usage periode so finding a stamp used in the actual usage periode is even harder, as the provisional stamps would be replaced by actual stamps within a short span of time.

so I always look at the cancel as the first thing.

i need to see cancel place, date, year clearly... corner cancelled stamps could have been made many years ahead in the future and are in my world not desireable (worthless) as I collect stamps used for their actual purpose.

https://www.stampworld.com/de/stamp...2018?page=13

4 tipes of 6 on 8 filler exist. If you have lucky your stamp worth over a 100.
I have also 6 on 8. It is quite an unusal stamp.

Your stamp is fine ,don't believe it is a forgery . It has minimum value .